re: Miles comes in at #2 on list of current SEC head coaches...

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Anyone watching this team the last two seasons can tell Miles has this program going in the right direction.

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The last two years regular seasons:

08=7-5, 7th in the SEC, national ranking none

09=9-3, 3rd in the SEC, national ranking

I'm forced to agree with you bout the right direction and we can only hope that direction continues into 10.

Well I mean those numbers can be a bit deceptive. I mean Saban took over 2 Programs (LSU/Bama) that were technically rebuilding. Yes each team had talent when he took over but they lacked depth and did not have as much talent as some would believe.

Saban turned those two teams around andI find it remarkable he has such a high winning percentage considering both of his jobs were suppose to be turn around jobs.

Miles for all intents and purposes walked into a team that had talent and depth. No they were not a Top 5 team like people say but they had top 5 talent. What he has done in 5 years can not be denied he has given LSU a success not seen before in school history.

However in my opinion what Saban has done has been more remarkable. Mainly because he turned LSU and Alabama around so fast and made them both into nationally recognized schools again. LSU had it lowest point in the years prior to Saban and Alabama fans can say prior to Saban they were at some of their lowest points.

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let's not see a saban vs. miles argument. miles supporters have made themselves look foolish enough in this thread.

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Sorry that you can't support the current staff and team but will make damn sure that people remember Saban. Quit living in the past. Saban is gone. If you are a fan of LSU football, why not support the team instead of constantly bashing them and making sure Saban gets praised?

ETA: Im not aiming this just at you personally, just the sect of fans that makes sure that anytime Miles is talked about, Saban must be mentioned and credited with everything. Miles can't win with this certain sect of the Rant.

when do i bash the team by the way?

Especially insulting the coaching staff's intelligence on a constant basis. Can't help with perception of the program and future recruiting.

Actually neither does being positive on a message board. When you go to a game it is the positive and negative fans that are leaving at the half or end of third quarter.
I am sure LSU is more concerned with money than if the fans like Miles or not. They know this is a business and if Miles wins 10 games next year he will silence his critics. If he wins 8 then more "positive" people will turn into negative ones.

les miles is not LSU. he is a hired gun and the program will be around long after he is done coaching. people like you supported curly hallman in his final days and didn't say a word against him.

I'm not directly on the other end of the spectrum like you think. I do not think Miles is the best coach. My point is that the constant bashing, insults, and saban envy that people throw out on this board doesn't help anything. If Miles has another bad year then he needs to go. I just think there is a better way to let him go then the what flaming torch ranters would want to do if thats what it came to.

actually i think complaining about miles here is probably the best and most healthy option of all. fans bitch, they always have and always will. i don't understand why you think we are unique in this situation.

and to use the recycled analogy, does someone bitching about the president mean they hate america? is anyone who's ever protested against the president's decision automatically bashing the country as a whole? of course not, that would be ridiculous. we seem to be in a similar situation here.