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re: Miles bashing Lee

Posted on 10/27/08 at 9:51 pm to
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
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Posted on 10/27/08 at 9:51 pm to
I have seen enough of the Co-Dc's for sure, you betcha..
Posted by That LSU Guy
Ponte Vedra Beach
Member since Jul 2008
15058 posts
Posted on 10/27/08 at 9:51 pm to
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ALL the difference.

Not so much. How bout we say it's 0-0 in the 4th qtr then. He throws a pick 6. Who's fault is it?
Posted by wgulsu
LA
Member since Jan 2008
2361 posts
Posted on 10/27/08 at 9:52 pm to
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he is going to be your QB he needs the gametime against TULANE. Just stick with one guy in my opinion.




ohhh I totally agree that Lee is the guy, but I do like the 2 qb system (ex. last yr) plus we don't wanna run Shep off
Posted by ThePistol
Lafayette, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1805 posts
Posted on 10/27/08 at 9:52 pm to
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have you seen enough of that defense yet too?


Thank God you don't make that decision.
Posted by That LSU Guy
Ponte Vedra Beach
Member since Jul 2008
15058 posts
Posted on 10/27/08 at 9:54 pm to
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When you are behind by 14 with 8 min it makes all the difference in the world.
It's going to take time because he's a RSF, but those picks fall on no one but Lee.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34400 posts
Posted on 10/27/08 at 9:54 pm to
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Not so much. How bout we say it's 0-0 in the 4th qtr then. He throws a pick 6. Who's fault is it?
don't spin, that wasn't what you said and I responded to.

You ever play sports? Even pitchers are in a better situation with a couple of runs lead. Ever hear, "Let's get a couple of runs to help our pitcher?"

Much different when you're playing with a lead. Affects playcalling, pressure, crowd....
Posted by ThePistol
Lafayette, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1805 posts
Posted on 10/27/08 at 9:54 pm to
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Not so much. How bout we say it's 0-0 in the 4th qtr then. He throws a pick 6. Who's fault is it?


Thank you for making my point. A redshirt freshman QB is going to make mistakes when he repeatedly has to make plays to bring a team back. Lee made plays to bring us back and the defense let him down. His success rate on 4th quarter drives was very high when he was down and had to make plays. If it is 0-0 our QB does not have to force the ball down the middle of the field!
Posted by Bad Cat
Painted Post, NY
Member since Jan 2004
12091 posts
Posted on 10/27/08 at 9:54 pm to
Typical goofy fan response--replace Lee with our true freshman QB.

Lee might be making rookie mistakes, but Jefferson can't possibly know the plays.

Both Lee and Jefferson are the future, so playing Jefferson this year makes sense, but not starting QB.
Posted by MegaTiger
Member since Dec 2003
2224 posts
Posted on 10/27/08 at 9:55 pm to
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Thank God you don't make that decision


i'm not asking to make the decision but are you saying the defense is fine?
Posted by ThePistol
Lafayette, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1805 posts
Posted on 10/27/08 at 9:56 pm to
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ohhh I totally agree that Lee is the guy, but I do like the 2 qb system


Except Hatch played essentially the entire third quarter and was not successful. He displayed the arm of a fifth grader on the intentional grounding. I will admit I was thinking of Sheppard as the change of pace guy with Lee during the game yesterday and got really excited.
Posted by ThePistol
Lafayette, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1805 posts
Posted on 10/27/08 at 9:58 pm to
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i'm not asking to make the decision but are you saying the defense is fine?


Are you serious? That is the reason I started this thread. The defense is the #1 problem with this team.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
52895 posts
Posted on 10/27/08 at 9:59 pm to
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WTF does it matter if you're behind or not. The QB's job is to control the ball, drive the field, and score.


Because rather than just playing conservatively, you are put in a do or die situation where the slightest slip up means failure...which increases the odds of the frick up.

And to be honest, I blame Crowton as much as Lee for that first pick six.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
52895 posts
Posted on 10/27/08 at 10:01 pm to
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Lee might be making rookie mistakes, but Jefferson can't possibly know the plays.


One of the main reasons why they were looking to medical redshirt him after giving him a couple of snaps was because he was so slow in picking up the playbook.
Posted by MegaTiger
Member since Dec 2003
2224 posts
Posted on 10/27/08 at 10:01 pm to
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Are you serious?


then why give a smartass remark when I ask someone else a question about the defense? and btw I agree with you, Lee def. deserves criticism but people keep putting the blame on him and blowing off the fact that the defense still gave up 35 points.
Posted by That LSU Guy
Ponte Vedra Beach
Member since Jul 2008
15058 posts
Posted on 10/27/08 at 10:02 pm to
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on't spin, that wasn't what you said and I responded to.

You ever play sports? Even pitchers are in a better situation with a couple of runs lead. Ever hear, "Let's get a couple of runs to help our pitcher?"

Much different when you're playing with a lead. Affects playcalling, pressure, crowd....

Ok how about the 1st play of the game. He threw an ill advised pass that got took to the house. Who's fault was that?
Posted by That LSU Guy
Ponte Vedra Beach
Member since Jul 2008
15058 posts
Posted on 10/27/08 at 10:03 pm to
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And to be honest, I blame Crowton as much as Lee for that first pick six.
WTF? How do you blame Crowton?
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34400 posts
Posted on 10/27/08 at 10:06 pm to
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Ok how about the 1st play of the game. He threw an ill advised pass that got took to the house. Who's fault was that?
Were we ahead?
Posted by ThePistol
Lafayette, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1805 posts
Posted on 10/27/08 at 10:09 pm to
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Ok how about the 1st play of the game. He threw an ill advised pass that got took to the house. Who's fault was that?


Then he promptly led a TD drive capped off with a TD pass to Lafell. The game was 7-7 when the defense took the field and 14-7 when Lee came back in. How is this different than if we punt and the defense caves and the score is 7-0?

Let me hear your thoughts on this quote from Miles: "Our defense, which is making advancement slowly, is put on the field in a position where their efforts are not necessarily appreciated. In other words, its seven! They already got seven! We ain't even taken a snap yet."

I just disproved this quote and showed why Miles' criticism and focus is misplaced right now!
Posted by Dr. 3
Member since Mar 2005
11367 posts
Posted on 10/27/08 at 10:20 pm to
I never really got upset with Lee at any point. True, the first pick was horrid but I knew he could shake that off. I was extremely pissed at Crowton with the second pick. We finally battled to get momentum in our favor, with Scott gashing them, and he runs that crap on first down.

I expect Lee to makes some poor throws, but I fully expect him to make some great ones too. Thats what you get most of the time with freshman.
Posted by adavis
North of I-10
Member since Aug 2007
5931 posts
Posted on 10/27/08 at 10:29 pm to
Lee played like shite, but Miles needs to put the blame on himself for not benching him. He should also look at his hire for DC. It's not like Miles to blame other people, he's always stood behind his players and his coaches. Maybe there is something going on that we don't know about.
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