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Maybe throwing off of his back foot just works for Lee

Posted on 9/17/11 at 4:21 am
Posted by cornstarch
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 9/17/11 at 4:21 am
What I mean by this is, there is an exception to every rule. Certain players should do certain things to help make them a good player. Mechanics, tactics, whatever. But we've all seen the guys that don't look the best at whatever they do, but are still effective.

Of course great footwork, throwing mechanics, and all that typical jazz contribute to a good passer. But for Jarrett Lee, maybe throwing the way he does JUST WORKS for him. Of course it isn't pretty, it isn't orthodox...but maybe, just maybe that's how it works for HIM.

You can liken it to a person with a terrible shot in basketball, yet for this certain player the shot always seems to fall and everyone is like "how did that happen?"

I haven't noticed anything bad about Lee's throws aside from the way it looks when he winds back and releases the ball. Besides that ONE pick in three games, his passes aren't under thrown like you'd expect from being thrown off the back foot.

In essence, maybe Lee doesn't have the prototypical release...but it might just work for him. And as long as we keep winning and passing it like we have the past 2 games...let it be.
This post was edited on 9/17/11 at 4:23 am
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 5:02 am to
It works for Moore, QB at Boise State. I noticed he throws off his back foot, similar to Lee, and he is very accurate.
Posted by zeebo
Hammond
Member since Jan 2008
5193 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 5:05 am to
Some great golf players, and great baseball players, have weird swings....
Posted by pitbull20
Somewhere close... real close
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 9/17/11 at 5:26 am to
funny thing is, the one interception he threw was done so with great mechanics.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 5:49 am to
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funny thing is, the one interception he threw was done so with great mechanics


first let me be clear I think Lee is doing a great job and will continue to do a great job

But I thought of all the throws he made that night something was odd about the release, it seemed lower than all the others and his arm did not have the same follow through. When he released it I thought that did not look good, but I am not an expert by any means, so I do not know what to make of it
Posted by pitbull20
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Posted on 9/17/11 at 5:56 am to
oh neither am I and I was joking. I have not really looked at the throw to much because I thought it was obvious there was a miscommunication and not an issue of just flat out overthrowing it.

He misread the route and made a mistake. It happens.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 9/17/11 at 5:59 am to
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He misread the route and made a mistake. It happens.


Oh yeah, totally agree, but you thought the throw itself, just the throw looked OK, I thought something was off but could not tell what it was.
Posted by pitbull20
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Posted on 9/17/11 at 6:00 am to
like I said I was just talking shite. I have not looked at it to much, just making a joke that his only interception comes on an overthrow and not an under throw (back foot issue)
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 6:03 am to
OK, well can't wait for the next game!!!

Posted by Swat5
Houston
Member since May 2010
2417 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 6:54 am to
I truly think its hard to get off your back foot with such a lightning quick release...like a Dan Marino.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42508 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 7:26 am to
I see nothing at all wrong with the 'back foot' release as long as he is not underthrowing the ball. He gets rid of the ball very quickly when he decides to throw - if he mechanically forced himself to 'step into' every throw, it would slow the release down.

I suspect if he had to unload a 60 yard pass - he would naturally step into it.

As long as he can get ball where it needs to be consistently, quickly and accurately - I don't care how he throws it.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 7:31 am to
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I see nothing at all wrong with the 'back foot' release as long as he is not underthrowing the ball. He gets rid of the ball very quickly when he decides to throw - if he mechanically forced himself to 'step into' every throw, it would slow the release down.



Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34245 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 7:43 am to
Favre and Marino also had a habit of this. I think it's the nature of his motion. At least he isn't throwing a 98 mph fastball from the wind-up...
Posted by Uncommon Cents
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2008
14381 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 8:45 am to
Throwing off the back foot is bad. It has to be. The football experts(most of whom have never heard the term before a month ago) on the rant have declared it so. That should settle it.

Now on to the next inane criticism from the idiot chorus.
Posted by hybrid3
Inside of 150
Member since Nov 2009
416 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 8:51 am to
Jim Furyk
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7271 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 9:00 am to
Maybe it's just me, but it looks to me like he's trying to be very careful with the ball and use more touch. He's not the same gunslinger he was as a freshman, and as a result my be "feathering" the ball more, maybe resulting in the "back foot throws". I really noticed it on the WR screen Thursday night ... where Mett rifled the ball to the WR, JLee seemed more careful.

Posted by thekid
Anna, Tx
Member since May 2006
3937 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 9:09 am to
I totally agree that this is way over-blown as a problem. The reason you don't want a QB to throw off that back foot is not because the ball will be underthrown it's because the ball could "float" since the trajectory is impacted. This is not a problem JL has. His ball has zip and is seldom thrown up for grabs.
Sometimes when he is about to be hit, the back foot thing comes up and scares me a little but that happens to most QBs.
Posted by enomus1
Dutchtown
Member since Oct 2008
31 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 9:09 am to
Well said.The back foot throws concerned me during the Oregon game, but after three games it's apparent this works for him.
Posted by Uncommon Cents
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2008
14381 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 9:13 am to
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Well said.The back foot throws concerned me during the Oregon game

I speak for the entire rantard family when I say that we are happy that you are feeling better and are now the well on the way to total recovery.
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10523 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 9:32 am to
Throwing off your back foot affects velocity. That's not debatable, it's basic physics. But that doesn't mean a back foot passer can't be successful.
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