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re: Matt Millen on CFB Live
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:02 am to natcheztiger
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:02 am to natcheztiger
Well obviously the argument for getting into the championship game is not about who you've beat but about who you lost to. This, as you know is why bama is getting in over okie state.
Well bama lost to the #1 team and we will have lost to the #13 or whatever they are. So obviously they are in over us. And I guess because we lost after okie state did, they would obviously get in over us.
Resumes don't mean anything.
Well bama lost to the #1 team and we will have lost to the #13 or whatever they are. So obviously they are in over us. And I guess because we lost after okie state did, they would obviously get in over us.
Resumes don't mean anything.
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Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:03 am to SouljaBreauxTellEm
I think if we lose to uga, it knocks Bama out. LSU-okie lite in that scenario, IMO.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:04 am to noonan
Somebody gets it^^^^^^^^^
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:04 am to TigerStripes06
Thats exactly what makes more sense.
You cannot put Bama in over LSU when both teams will still only have 1 loss and LSU beat them h2h..
and no one is going to want to put 2 teams from the same conference in the championship game who didn't even win their conference.. that would be unreal.
I wish someone would make this point rather than all the Bama suck fest.
You cannot put Bama in over LSU when both teams will still only have 1 loss and LSU beat them h2h..
and no one is going to want to put 2 teams from the same conference in the championship game who didn't even win their conference.. that would be unreal.
I wish someone would make this point rather than all the Bama suck fest.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:06 am to noonan
Aren't quality wins factored in? They both have one loss but okie st has twice the quality wins of Bama. and the computers don't hate ISU...they are 26 or so. What the voters need to decide is if a loss at home with half the quality wins deserves a shot over a team with twice as many quality wins and a road loss.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:07 am to TigerStripes06
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I think if we lose to uga, it knocks Bama out. LSU-okie lite in that scenario, IMO.
The only way this happens is
There was enough voters for there not to already be a rematch even if lsu wins.
Then lsu moves behind bama with a loss
Then the voters avoid an all sec NC by voting OSU in and lsu goes to the cap 1.
If we lose, pray that OSU does too. Because if OSU wins and we lose, it will happen.
This post was edited on 11/30/11 at 12:08 am
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:08 am to natcheztiger
you can't reward bama for sitting out if LSU loses in a championship game. that would be horeshit considering LSU beat them. the regular season means too much in college football to let bama play with house money. this is what pisses me off.
so many people tend to say oh lsu fans would be whining if the tables were turned, but honestly i would actually understand the fact that we had our shot. i honestly would understand; the only thing i may be upset with is if officiating costed us the win.. then i admit i might be whining.
so many people tend to say oh lsu fans would be whining if the tables were turned, but honestly i would actually understand the fact that we had our shot. i honestly would understand; the only thing i may be upset with is if officiating costed us the win.. then i admit i might be whining.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:08 am to TigerStripes06
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I think if we lose to uga, it knocks Bama out. LSU-okie lite in that scenario, IMO.
I'm not sure about the math on this, but are you saying LSU would remain #1 and OSU would jump to #2, or that OSU would go to #1 and LSU to #2?
I can't see either happening, honestly.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:08 am to Tigerfan7218
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MOST people on this site are more qualified for the job he does than he is.
FIFY
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:09 am to Ghostfacedistiller
, sad but true.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:10 am to SouljaBreauxTellEm
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you can't reward bama for sitting out if LSU loses in a championship game. that would be horeshit considering LSU beat them. the regular season means too much in college football to let bama play with house money. this is what pisses me off.
As bad as it sucks, none of this would matter. Bama would have lost to the number 1 team in overtime
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:11 am to TigerStripes06
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Aren't quality wins factored in? They both have one loss but okie st has twice the quality wins of Bama. and the computers don't hate ISU...they are 26 or so. What the voters need to decide is if a loss at home with half the quality wins deserves a shot over a team with twice as many quality wins and a road loss.
Agreed - Also, OSU's loss was the day after a tragedy in their athletic program AND, I thought OSU's field goal at the end of regulation was good.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:11 am to TotalYatMove
I am saying LSU SHOULD most def remain #1.
Without a question. Everyone will still have 1 loss, and LSU still beat the #2 and #3 teams in the nation as well as another top 10 team..
You cannot put Bama over LSU when LSU beat them. Hello..
So LSU remains #1 as THEY SHOULD! and bama still remains #2.. but voters should push for an actual conference championship to play.
The point is.. why have 2 teams from the same conference who didnt even win their conference play.
Bama doesn't deserve the leverage here. At all.
Without a question. Everyone will still have 1 loss, and LSU still beat the #2 and #3 teams in the nation as well as another top 10 team..
You cannot put Bama over LSU when LSU beat them. Hello..
So LSU remains #1 as THEY SHOULD! and bama still remains #2.. but voters should push for an actual conference championship to play.
The point is.. why have 2 teams from the same conference who didnt even win their conference play.
Bama doesn't deserve the leverage here. At all.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:13 am to dreaux
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As bad as it sucks, none of this would matter. Bama would have lost to the number 1 team in overtime
It doesn't matter. They lost at home. h2h.
How can you justify putting them above a team who beat them and with a better resume.. and that team had to play an extra game. I just think it's absolutely a crime.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:16 am to Tigerfan7218
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You actually have a better chance of being fired at ESPN if you are decent and competent writer/analyst (Feldman, Forde)
Feldman and Forde didn't get fired, they quit because they were sick of ESPN's forcing them to push the network's agenda. Now ESPN is without their two most tolerable analysts. I do like Chris Low as he seems to be very good about not being biased and does a great job covering the SEC and covers them all equally. However, all he has is an SEC Blog and is rarely ever on TV.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:18 am to TigerStripes06
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Aren't quality wins factored in?
quality wins affect different computer rankings, but the quality win section of the BCS formula was taken out a few years ago.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:19 am to dreaux
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As bad as it sucks, none of this would matter. Bama would have lost to the number 1 team in overtime
I hear what you are saying and agree that the voters are at least as likely to compare who had the more forgivable loss as to compare who had the better wins. However, I have to believe that such comparisons would be trumped by a head-to-head win on the home field of the losing team.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:19 am to lsufball19
Feldman left on his own, but wasn't he suspended by ESPN first? I never saw a reasoning for Forde, but the point remains, you are more likely to stop working there if you know what the hell you are talking about
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:21 am to dreaux
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Then lsu moves behind bama with a loss
They dropped Bama one spot after their loss. No way the voters will drop LSU behind Bama when both have one loss and LSU beat Bama, not to mention LSU's loss will be in an extra game Bama didn't qualify for. The only ways it's not a Bama/LSU title game is: 1) the voters decide they don't want a rematch and all SEC final 2) Oklahoma St crushes Oklahoma and the voters jump Oklahoma State for that and reason #1. I'm still not so sure Bama is given a rematch. Everyone thought Michigan and Ohio St were gonna have a rematch in 2006 until the final polls came out after championship weekend.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:23 am to Tigerfan7218
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Feldman left on his own, but wasn't he suspended by ESPN first? I never saw a reasoning for Forde, but the point remains, you are more likely to stop working there if you know what the hell you are talking about
yeah he was. i forget what exactly he said but espn punished him for something writing an article they didn't like and then went from offering him a raise and a 2-3 year extension to only extending his contract one year with no pay raise. he kindly told them to frick off
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