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re: Matt Canada's offense scored 3 rushing TD's and 3 passing TD's and scored 42 points
Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:08 pm to Goldrush25
Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:08 pm to Goldrush25
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USC was 3-2 when Lane was fired. LSU was 2-2 when Les was fired. Were they underachieving, yes. Sucking? No, there's not a lot of turning around he had to do. [/quote
Les Miles sucked even when he won games. He lost games in embarrassing fashion. Not one of Os wins sucked, not one of his losses last year, was in embarrassing fashion. Bama made a couple more plays then us last year. The Florida game was player mistake after player mistake. But he put them in positions to win or he allowed the coaches to do that.
Since that Florida loss I bet this LSU team is totally different in the redzone. Meaning he learned or is going to figure out a way to fix our weakness from last year. Either by scheme, recruiting, or both. Les Miles NEVER did that. He would trot out the same offense against the same opponent every year. He would take what the team did well, then do it over and over never deviating even if it wasn't working. This is what got him canned and I'm glad it happend.
O now knows better then to be a hard head. He will listen to his players, coaches, and people around him for the better of the team, instead of proving his way is right. This is what will make him much better than most coaches. Most coaches have too big of an ego to change when things aren't working or change when it's too late in the game.
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:10 pm to BayouBengal99
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I love when people say this. He sure did but those programs were also failing as of late and he revived them
lsu had finished top 16 every year but once since 2010.
he had .770 win % which is about what miles did at lsu. in no way was lsu failing.
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Taking what someone did later in life is much more relevant then what he did earlier in life, especially if he has a record to prove it.
being an interim head coach is in no way the same as putting your stamp on a program as a head coach. the fact that you would even suggest the two are close tells me all i need to know. quote:
Basically LSU fans need to give the man his chance and stop talking shite about him because y'all sound even more dumb then the people saying his interim record is a good basis for future success.
you know you've made a shite hire when posting objective facts about his career as a head coach is considered shitting on him.
it's not an opinion that his only time running a program resulted in the worst tenure in ole miss history. he has the worst win % of any ole miss coach that has coached at least 10 games. he has the worst conf win % of any ole miss coach to coach at least 10 games
it's not an opinion that he has never, in 32 years of coaching, proven he can run a successful side of the ball.he has never been a successful coordinator
if you deem those 2 statements as scrapping on O then you just don't like reality
Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:11 pm to nvasil1
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Not one sentence of this has anything to do with my post.
You said "That's not hatred. Believe it or not, people are capable of forming opinions without personal feelings getting in the way".
I was asking your opinion of the USC and LSU tenures of CEO. I wanted an opinion without personal feelings.
Like, did you not like the Dave Aranda extension? Do you disagree with the Matt Canada hire? Did you think LSU could have done better than 7th in the nation in recruiting with only 23 signees?
Lay some of these "opinions without personal feelings getting in the way". Not criticizing, just curious.
If a person is going to hate shouldn't they have good reasons to do so? I want to hear some. Personal or non-personal, it's all good.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:13 pm to BayouBengal99
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not one of his losses last year, was in embarrassing fashion.
I'd say losing at home to a 14 point underdog that was missing tons of defensive starters is embarrassing.
I'd say having less 1st downs against bama than Chattanooga and western kentucky is embarrassing.
having 6 1st downs at home against bama is embarrassing.
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Les Miles sucked even when he won games.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:15 pm to Tiger Ree
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Like, did you not like the Dave Aranda extension? Do you disagree with the Matt Canada hire? Did you think LSU could have done better than 7th in the nation in recruiting with only 23 signees?
you stated many times lsu recruited itself under miles.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:16 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Rickdaddy4188
Glad you're back. How about that 32-45 years ago shite? I always enjoy that one.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:19 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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lsu had finished top 16 every year but once since 2010.
Oh shite, top 16. That's all LSU fans have ever wanted. Hire Les Miles back !!! Top 16 is as good as it will ever get.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:25 pm to Tiger Ree
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Glad you're back. How about that 32-45 years ago shite? I always enjoy that one.
you mean the only time an ad allowed Ed Orgeron to actually put his mark on a program? I'm sure youd like to use programs built by other coaches.
it's amazing watching You shite on your own arguments.
you've repeatedly said LSU recruited itself under miles and then want to give O credit for such a great class
you've repeatedly said Herman's 1st year at Houston is meaningless because it wasnt his program and then tout an interim tenure for O.
I justdon't understand why youre trying to sell the hire so hard if you're so sure of it.
if I think my girlfriend is beautiful I'm not constantly asking my friend to tell me she is beautiful.
I actually like some of the things O has done since the removal of the interim tag and I repeatedly give him credit for keeping the class together but I'm not sitting here acting like lsu doesnt recruit itself for Miles and then does for O.
the logic you use for other coaches shits on O when the same logic is applied to him.
O will be judged by his wins and losses just like every lsu coach
Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:26 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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I'd say losing at home to a 14 point underdog that was missing tons of defensive starters is embarrassing.
Gaining 423 yards to 270 is embarrassing? 98 of their yards came on one play or it would be 172 total yards. Yeah, really embarrassing.
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I'd say having less 1st downs against bama than Chattanooga and western kentucky is embarrassing.
You enjoy crying about the past. Did those teams hire the only offensive Broyles Award candidate as their new offensive coordinator? Did they fire or demote their OC after the Alabama game?
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having 6 1st downs at home against bama is embarrassing.
Embarrassing would be keeping the same Les Miles' staff that accomplished the amazing feat of getting 6 first downs against Alabama. Not embarrassing would be going out and getting the OC who beat Penn St and Clemson while becoming the only offensive Broyles Award candidate last season.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:26 pm to Tiger Ree
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If a person is going to hate
No one is doing that in this thread.
Having the opinion that Kiffin is a better coach isn't hatred of CEO. That was what my post was about.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:27 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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you stated many times lsu recruited itself under miles.
You have me confused with some idiot.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:27 pm to Tiger Ree
You keep beating your chest over the 11-4 record that Coach O has over 15 games, that's a 73 % win percentage. So if you translate that to a 12 game season then you have a 9-3 season.
Where do you think a 9-3 season lands us in the rankings since top 16 doesn't satisfy you but 11-4 does?
Where do you think a 9-3 season lands us in the rankings since top 16 doesn't satisfy you but 11-4 does?
This post was edited on 8/18/17 at 7:28 pm
Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:29 pm to Tiger Ree
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Oh shite, top 16. That's all LSU fans have ever wanted. Hire Les Miles back !!! Top 16 is as good as it will ever get
so top 16 is FAILING? who new 90% of lsu's history is failing
Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:33 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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you mean the only time an ad allowed Ed Orgeron to actually put his mark on a program? I'm sure youd like to use programs built by other coaches.
He has made many changes at LSU. Which ones do you disagree with?
Dave Aranda extension?
Matt Canada hire?
Pete Jenkins hire?
What has he done at LSU that makes you hate him so much?
Be honest, I can handle it.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:38 pm to Tiger Ree
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He has made many changes at LSU. Which ones do you disagree with?
Dave Aranda extension?
Matt Canada hire?
Pete Jenkins hire?
What has he done at LSU that makes you hate him so much?
Be honest, I can handle it.
do you just gloss over the parts of my post that aren't shitting on O. I've repeatedly given him credit for things he has done since having the interim tag removed. I'm just pointing out that the logic you us for other coaches shits on O when the same logic is applied to him.
I haven't started any threads crapping on O. O Will be judged by what he does going forward. not what he does in programs built by other coaches.just like any other head coach.
This post was edited on 8/18/17 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:41 pm to wildtigercat93
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Where do you think a 9-3 season lands us in the rankings since top 16 doesn't satisfy you but 11-4 does?
You said you could give me a list of successful IHC's. can you do it? When you do I will answer your questions.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:44 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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so top 16 is FAILING? who new 90% of lsu's history is failing
Knew not new, for future reference.
CEO didn't retain Aranda and hire Canada to be 16th in the nation. Do you disagree with his moves to be a top team in the nation? Do you want to be the 16th ranked team in the nation? Okay if you do, just wondering.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:45 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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O Will be judged by what he does going forward. not what he does in programs built by other coaches.just like any other head coach
AND??? WTF dude?
You are the one who is holding 32 to 50 years ago against him.
This post was edited on 8/18/17 at 7:48 pm
Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:48 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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u had finished top 16 every year but once since 2010. he had .770 win % which is about what miles did at lsu. in no way was lsu failing.
Misinterpretation of what I said, I said as of LATE.
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head coach is in no way the same as putting your stamp on a program as a head coach. the fact that you would even suggest the two are close tells me all i need to know.
I never said that, and to help the your comprehension out I guess I'll repeat myself for your dumbass. What I said was that it is even more ignorant to judge someone on what they did 10 years ago, then for someone to claim what a coach did as interim to be a basis for success as head coach. They are both ignorant to claim.
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you know you've made a shite hire when posting objective facts about his career as a head coach is considered shitting on him.
Look brah I don't give too shits what you say or claim a decade ago about Orgeron. What I give a shite about is the LSU program and people like you who post this stuff for your own self-righteous weak brain to feel satisfaction. Good for you. Not LSU
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he has never been a successful coordinator
Dabo wasn't either look where he took Clemson.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 7:49 pm to Tiger Ree
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AND??? WTF dud
that you apply different logic to different coaches.
sorry you can't follow along.
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