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re: Mainieri paraphrased: "my players are not talented"

Posted on 5/10/11 at 8:53 am to
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 8:53 am to
quote:

WTF? PM is a chickenshit leader who constantly blames those he is supposed to lead for his own shortcomings


link?

quote:

Do you think Eisenhower ever blamed his sergeants or lieutenants when things went bad?


this ain't war....it's a baseball game.
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 8:57 am to
quote:

PM is a chickenshit leader who constantly blames those he is supposed to lead for his own shortcomings


You obviously have little idea of what you speak and absolutely no personal knowlege of the man himself. You could not be more wrong.

Some of his coaching decisions have been questionable this year and I think he has the very common problem of being a poor manager of his assistants (like Miles, et al) but he is not guilty of the charges you profess.
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4801 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 8:58 am to
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WTF? PM is a chickenshit leader who constantly blames those he is supposed to lead for his own shortcomings. Do you think Eisenhower ever blamed his sergeants or lieutenants when things went bad?

No one should be sticking up for this clown.


yep, comparing war to college baseball and p.m. is the clown.
Posted by Prodigal Tiger
Upper West Side, New York City
Member since Aug 2005
1882 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 9:02 am to
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comparing war to college baseball and p.m. is the clown.


It's about leadership, not war vs. baseball. A true leader doesn't blame his troops, employees, players, or whomever else he leads when things go wrong. It is the opposite of good leadership.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
84955 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 9:03 am to
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Do you think Eisenhower ever blamed his sergeants or lieutenants when things went bad?


Aside from the silliness of comparing college baseball to war, I'd like to point out one simple fact:

Eisenhower was a 5-star general. I can promise you that he knew who virtually none of his sergeants or lieutenants were.

Dolt.
This post was edited on 5/10/11 at 9:05 am
Posted by Prodigal Tiger
Upper West Side, New York City
Member since Aug 2005
1882 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 9:04 am to
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this ain't war....it's a baseball game.


Yeah. That's exactly what I did, jackasses. I wrote "war is just like baseball, therefore I don't like Mainieri."

Try to understand the point of my post before responding.
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4801 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 9:04 am to
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Agreed, but I think it would have been better if he'd said made this admission to a meeting of major TAF donors rather than to the general public.


it really doesn't matter what or how he says anything. someone on here will not like it and bitch about it.

in one calendar year, Miles, trent, paul, joe, and van have received request to be fired by the rant.

If the rant ran lsu, it would fire the entire athletic department every year. lsu would be the best athletic program in the country for it!
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 9:06 am to
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Prodigal Tiger


U mad dude ?
Posted by Prodigal Tiger
Upper West Side, New York City
Member since Aug 2005
1882 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 9:10 am to
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U mad dude ?


OMG!!!!!! Good one!!!

Where did you come up with that? Did you make it up on the spot? Oh man, what a sick burn! I am properly chastised and will go away now. Just don't burn me with a "csb." I don't think I could handle that.
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10602 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 9:14 am to
I think it makes a difference, to me at least, whether or not he just came out and said this or if he was asked a question.

Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4801 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 9:19 am to
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It's about leadership, not war vs. baseball. A true leader doesn't blame his troops, employees, players, or whomever else he leads when things go wrong. It is the opposite of good leadership.


i'm sure you know more about leadership/coaching than paul m.! 3 c.w.s. a nation title for p.m. to Prodigal Tiger ZERO.

i didn't see where he "blamed" his players. he stated what the issue was and he said it was fault. otherwise, he recognizes the problem and has a plan is to fix it.

maybe that isn't leadership. i rather a guy who knows what to do than one that doesn't. he's been at the top and knows how to get there.


Posted by AllAboutMe
Member since Apr 2011
28 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 9:20 am to
i have said cpm is chicken dik for a while now. and have been mocked for it.

you just dont do these things publicly. any coach with his experience should know better.
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 9:21 am to
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Prodigal Tiger


quote:

OMG!!!!!! Good one!!!


Perhaps I should have typed out ... Are you angry ?
The way you are responding to people who are challenging your posts is a bit over the top. Was I intending it as a 'burn' ? No. I think that is usually done with one of the countless images folks use on here. It was a question, one which you have most certainly answered with yet another over-the-top response.

Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 9:30 am to

quote:

A true leader doesn't blame his troops, employees, players, or whomever else he leads when things go wrong.


quote:

That's part of it; but who's fault is that?" he asked. "That's my fault. I'm not going to blame it on the kids.
Posted by OPR
NOLA
Member since Sep 2009
2606 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 9:32 am to
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is there a problem with this?

PM comes out and is honest and accepts responsibility. If he would've been all rainbows and unicorns y'all would be claiming the team has naked pics of him. There's no winning with rantards



This x a gazillion.


You could be dealing with MB.

"Well, you have to give credit to the other team. They just played better than us/they just wanted it more/they didn't make errors/they are better looking/they have bigger dicks/they sleep with hotter women/they do longer lines of blow/they tan at least 3 times a week/they spend more time on message boards, etc."


If our coach spends another single fricking second praising another mediocre SECW team for simply being BETTER than his team and essentially saying that there was nothing we could do to win that/those games, I'm going to tear out his larynx, feed it to my dog, scoop up his larynx shite and cram it down his fricking throat.


LSU rantards are the most ridiculous, ignorant, juvenile assholes on the web.

The man gave an honest opinion of the talent level of your baseball team and then IMMEDIATELY took responsibility for that lack of talent. LSU fans have been bitching and complaining (and rightly so) for months about this team "under achieving" and your coach finally comes out and says they aren't under achieving, they are playing as well as they can and the answer is to recruit even better talent in the future to get back on track.

At least the son-of-a-bitch KNOWS and ACKNOWLEDGES the problems instead of continuing down the toilet bowl saying the same shite, over and over.

I want to choke the sense back into all of you one by one.
Posted by Enfuego
Uptown
Member since Mar 2009
9932 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 9:36 am to
at least he's telling the truth
Posted by tigerbait01
Sec. 423 Row 18
Member since Jul 2007
4022 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 9:43 am to
But a few weeks ago he was saying we were right there and just had to learn how to win close games. Now he says we just aren't good enough...I disagree. I still think we are good enough to compete but after saying this it seems to me like he has given up
Posted by OPR
NOLA
Member since Sep 2009
2606 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 9:43 am to
quote:

It's about leadership, not war vs. baseball. A true leader doesn't blame his troops, employees, players, or whomever else he leads when things go wrong. It is the opposite of good leadership.




If you teach an employee to cook fries. Then that employee gets nervous and forgets to cook fries when you asked him to do so, are you going to tell the manager that YOU screwed up the fries? Or are you going to ask the manager to get you an employee who won't forget to cook fries when you ask him to do so?
Posted by OPR
NOLA
Member since Sep 2009
2606 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 9:46 am to
quote:

quote:
A true leader doesn't blame his troops, employees, players, or whomever else he leads when things go wrong.



quote:
That's part of it; but who's fault is that?" he asked. "That's my fault. I'm not going to blame it on the kids.







Fuggin BOOM!!!
Posted by bayoujd
Member since Jan 2009
2895 posts
Posted on 5/10/11 at 9:47 am to
Mainieri is 100% correct on both of these statements:

1. This team is not as talented as his prior teams.

2. The blame lies with Mainieri.

I applaud him for accepting responsibility for the talent deficiency. He recruited these players and admitted it's his fault ultimately.

However, he should not have said #1 in the public domain.
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