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re: LSU's offense strategy for the second half
Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:25 am to bigoyster
Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:25 am to bigoyster
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If one, just one, 2nd half pass had gone for a pick six every one of you would have been, "WTF WAS MILES DOING THROWING THE BALL IN THE SECOND HALF WITH A THREE TD LEAD
Actually no. Most would have known he was giving a QB with limited experience some confidence building plays. I really don't give a danm about those you describe throwing hissy fits
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Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:39 am to Jay Quest
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Most would have known he was giving a QB with limited experience some confidence building plays
That's what games against teams like Jacksonville State are designed to accomplish. LSU plays SEC caliber teams each of the next four weekends. Jacksonville State is the game where you allow your inexperienced QB the opportunity to show what he has or doesn't have. If not, then why schedule these types of games?
Posted on 9/12/16 at 5:00 am to LSU GrandDad
Les was wanting to save that playbook for bama.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 6:19 am to Rickdaddy4188
Live game. Not practice.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 6:42 am to LSU GrandDad
They tried to do simple passes to move the ball.....They had open receivers running down the field, Etling showed his inaccuracy by overthrowing receivers or underthrowing receivers....Same Shyt, different quarterback.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 6:45 am to NoNameTiger
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Miles has a long history at LSU of taking what works in the first half of a game and completely abandoning it in the second.
Especially if he has any kind of lead.
He believes in preventing other teams from seeing a lot of film on our offense..
I'ts pretty much year round kind of deal
Posted on 9/12/16 at 6:47 am to bigoyster
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I love you people. I really do.
If one, just one, 2nd half pass had gone for a pick six every one of you would have been, "WTF WAS MILES DOING THROWING THE BALL IN THE SECOND HALF WITH A THREE TD LEAD "
Be honest. You know would.
This mentality is why we don't grow as a program..
JL freshman year crushed Miles from having courage...
he is afraid of losing more than his willingness to win big and play big
a team like JSU is a perfect time to throw everything out there to see how our guys can play, give the QB confidence
Posted on 9/12/16 at 6:56 am to ApexTiger
How can you have confidence when your qb loses a fumble, threw an interception, Overthrowing wide open receivers and looked like a qb from purdue that only won 2-3 of his starts. I want to see him against miss state and auburn. But Les is probably going to be in a run, run, run type of mindset.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 6:57 am to PawnMaster
The best way to preserve a lead is to continue doing what got you there. How many times have we seen leads being "preserved" evaporate? You should never,take your foot off the gas - always go for the kill.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 6:59 am to Rickdaddy4188
Can't disagree more. Reps in practice and reps in any game are at completely different speeds. You should know that Rick I'm sure you played some ball. Passing is about rhythm and chemistry between receivers and QBs. I understand wanting to run the clock out but, running out of 3-4 receivers sets was working to move the chains more effectively than running heavy sets. He should have stuck with that 14 attempts is not enough to beat SEC quality defenses.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 7:12 am to PawnMaster
Or you give your new QB some in game reps. Going into SEC play, if (I hope) DE is the man, why not let him get some in game experience with the offense?
Posted on 9/12/16 at 7:21 am to LSU GrandDad
You're wrong, granddad. We did not change the plan. The play calling looked about the same to me.
It's the QB that changed. On many of those short routes, you admired in the first half, there were guys running deep. Etling didn't throw to them. In the second half he did. In fact it aggravated Miles who thought Etling should have hit the short routes.
On another issue here's a bulletin for the rant (not aimed at you): Let's say we run a play in the first half that involves a 10 and out and the QB completes it. Then, in the second half, we run the same play, and the QB overthrows it. Many of you think these are two different plays, and you complain, "Why are we changing the offense that worked so well? Miles is stubborn." But here's a secret we football experts (comparatively speaking) know: these are the same play. And the different results are due to execution differences.
It's the QB that changed. On many of those short routes, you admired in the first half, there were guys running deep. Etling didn't throw to them. In the second half he did. In fact it aggravated Miles who thought Etling should have hit the short routes.
On another issue here's a bulletin for the rant (not aimed at you): Let's say we run a play in the first half that involves a 10 and out and the QB completes it. Then, in the second half, we run the same play, and the QB overthrows it. Many of you think these are two different plays, and you complain, "Why are we changing the offense that worked so well? Miles is stubborn." But here's a secret we football experts (comparatively speaking) know: these are the same play. And the different results are due to execution differences.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 7:22 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Going against JSU is not valuable reps.
Leg Humper,Are you disagreeing with your Daddy, Miles? Surely not.
Listen to his post game PC. He plainly says that JS has excellent athletes and excellent coaching.
If in your opinion, JS is a second rate team why didn't Harris take advantage of their weakness?
Posted on 9/12/16 at 7:24 am to PawnMaster
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When you have a big lead
24 pts with this team is hardly a lead, much less a big lead.
Miles didnt want to be forced to start DE16 the rest of the year so he shut him down. Simple as that. Had BH been playing that well, we wouldve seen the score keep rising under the "get him comfortable running the offense" excuse.
Miles is done. We all know it.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 7:29 am to LSU GrandDad
Establishing in practice is not the same as a live game. Practice performance is why Harris was the starter. Playing in real game is what matters.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 7:37 am to Penrod
We ran out of more power I with only two receiving options in the game I watched. I think that is what he is saying. This team still has glaring issues the main one being the offensive line. I cringe to think what they will look like on the road at Auburn.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 8:03 am to TigerFanNKaty
Funny how cam has success and then miles takes the playcalling over in the 2nd half. One of he Highest paid OC in college football and miles takes over. What a joke.. Did etling even have a check down option on the deep ball that was intercepted? Wander If any truth to miles arguing over harris comin back in. Couldn't miles have just sent him back in ??
Posted on 9/12/16 at 8:06 am to ForeLSU
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I would have loved to see more of what we saw in the second quarter, but real work is done in practice, not against cupcakes.
I don't know, man...Harris is supposedly head and shoulders above everyone else at practice, and then we see what he can (can't) do against a "cupcake".
We should've used the second half of last weekend's game to continue to break Etling in with doing what was working and what he was doing so well.
Show Les the fricking door already.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 8:17 am to TigerCurry
Miles has been playing scared since 2008 with the QB and their development. The man's time is done. You can't keep giving them two-wides, and then say he didn't hit his checkdown bullshite. Where is the other option the TEs? They are usually blocking, the back? What if he as covered?
Posted on 9/12/16 at 8:29 am to LSU GrandDad
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we go out and COMPLETELY CHANGE the plan. for the third qtr and about half of the fourth qtr we swung for the fences. wanting a quick score. this had to have been our plan, right? we had two passes that should have been TD's (Guice and Dupre) but we seemed to pretty much abandon what was working.
this is concerning. maybe they were just trying to see how Etling could throw deep and knew the game was in hand. but it seems like that could easily be established in practice.
I just don't understand changing out of something that was working.
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From what he said in the post game presser, the deep pass was not called, or if it was, it wasn't Miles' idea. he was pissed about it.
we go out and COMPLETELY CHANGE the plan. for the third qtr and about half of the fourth qtr we swung for the fences. wanting a quick score. this had to have been our plan, right? we had two passes that should have been TD's (Guice and Dupre) but we seemed to pretty much abandon what was working.
this is concerning. maybe they were just trying to see how Etling could throw deep and knew the game was in hand. but it seems like that could easily be established in practice.
I just don't understand changing out of something that was working.
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From what he said in the post game presser, the deep pass was not called, or if it was, it wasn't Miles' idea. he was pissed about it.
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