re: LSU vs. USC: Interesting BCS Title Matchups (Part 1)

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If they can't beat UCLA, Oregon, Oregon St. and Stanford.......................................

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Interesting you'd want to use this argument. With the exception of the 2005 BCS NC Game against Texas, USC has lost ONE OOC game since 2002 - ONE. With FOUR wins vs. the SEC. The four Pac-10 teams you reference are responsible for the four Pac-10 losses USC has suffered in the past four seasons. And, only six in the past six seasons - an average of one per year. Yet, you want to point to the "strength of the SEC" as an excuse for LSU losing to fellow SEC members Kentucky and Arkansas last season, neither of which were ranked at the end of the season. Interesting double standard here.

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And don't tell me that Carroll didn't petition his team to be in the game before the voting. And once USC was left out, the absolute best outcome they could possibly expect was a 1st place vote in the AP poll.

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Part of a coach's role is to be an advocate for his team and do every thing in his power to achieve the best possible outcome for them. What you describe is what any viable coach would do - Miles, Meyer, Saban, Tressel, etc. If you think otherwise, you are not being honest with yourself. Any sincere Tiger fan on this board would have expected the same behavior from Saban if the situation were reversed.

and Ark and KY (top ten) were both ranked when we played them. I don't get your point other than "upsets happen". If that is your point, then yeah...i agree.

Arkansas was 7-4 when you played them, with four of their wins against the following teams: Troy, North Texas, Tenn.-Chattanoga and Florida Int'l. I doubt that they were ranked. And, they proceeded to get blown out in their Bowl game against Missouri. Kentucky WAS ranked, but ended up losing four of their last six games, probably to better teams in each case. Oregon went on a similar losing streak, but only after losing Dixon.

Cheers Vegas, now if we could get Reggie to produce like the RB he was at USC.

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Hmmm.. USC has two NC's (AP03 and AP and coaches 04), LSU has two Coaches 03, AP and Coaches 07)ow. Not sure what you are getting at? Nowhere does it says third BCS NC or third coaches NC.

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You and I both know its the BCS National Championship that matters.

i was hoping someone would find that.

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where are your wins against "tough teams" in Bowl games?

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OU was considered by the media (and me) to be one of the great teams in the last 20 years...gave up less than 200 yards and shut down an offense that repeatedly hung 50 in the Big XII to WIN THE CHAMPIONSHIP. OU was pretty tough man.

They gave Miami probably it's worst beating in their history. (yes, I know Miami wasn't that good). Not nearly as tough, but still Miami.

They gave Notre Dame one of the worst beatings in their history...

They gave Va. Tech the worst beating in their history....(notice a trend?) Not a bowl, but VT won the ACC. This was THE single most impressive out-of-conference win by ANYONE last year and the main reason why LSU got to the Dome ahead of the other teams.

I'm not one of the people on this board who think Ohio State sucks and is slow. They're an excellent team and are capable of beating u guys in September. LSU made their defense look pretty bad when they WON THE CHAMPIONSHIP. Ohio State is very well coached, it was just a bad match up.

So LSU has beaten about 4 more good bowl teams than USC has!! Not to mention an incredible 7 wins versus ranked teams last year alone!

Meanwhile, USC continues to be one of the most overrated teams this decade! UCLA, Oregon, Oregon State, STANFORD. Common, gimmie a break. Is USC much better than these teams even though they lost
? YES. But they play down to their competition. LSU doesn't. They can't. Not in their league. No weeks off.

And I hope you're not trying to get into a "who's got it tougher between LSU & USC" argument, cuz you'll get schooled.

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Oregon, BTW, w/Dixon, was a top-5 ranked team playing at home when they beat USC - and they were favored.

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YES! And u guys play in the friggin' Holiday Bowl if Dixon doesn't go down in Arizona. Think about that for a second.

well mr. usc fan....umm hemmm let me remind you of our record since 2000 vs. the pac 10 oh yeah thats right we are undefeated. .... so you are undefeated against sec as we are against the pac 10.... but let me ask you this.... who else from the wac 10 has a national championship ...az state??? 1996...