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re: LSU vs La Tech- Men's Basketball Exhibition

Posted on 11/2/19 at 7:51 pm to
Posted by ELLSSUU
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 7:51 pm to
I thought WW played with the lineup some no doubt trying to figure out what he has. LSU is probably a 20 better team than Tech.

Smart played well. There were a few times he came down court and immediately put up a shot when maybe he could have ran some offense. Overall it’s his team. He sat after his Tech otherwise would have scored more.

Love Williams energy. He is also vocal on defense. I enjoy watching him play.

Marlin Taylor-why didn’t he play? Haven’t read the whole thread.
Posted by LucaBrasi318
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 7:54 pm to
83-70 Tigers
Posted by The Truth 34
Chavez Ravine
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 8:39 pm to
quote:

Marlin Taylor-why didn’t he play?


Little nicked up. Precautionary.
Posted by Rantavious
Bossier ''get down'' City
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 8:56 pm to
Smart: Scores in a lot of ways. Set shot from 3, catch and shoot, off the dribble, at the line, drive off the screen. His ability to score off the dribble without having to pull up and go hard vertical is impressive. Ball handling at point is good, but not going to run past anyone in the backcourt. I expect teams will pressure his dribble very hard to slow down the offense.

Mays: very solid. Handles, shoots, passes, defends.

Bishop: solid handle, but didn't look to score in second half. He is important to the team as a ball handler off the bench. Pretty obvious that he wants to score the ball, hope he can develop.

Manning: athlete, defends hard, can finish. Had two blocks from behind, can get on top of people. I don't know about his outside shot as I suspect he just took everybody to the goal at JUCO.

Days: Very confident shooter. A bigger version of CT3. Enjoys rebounding. In the second half, LSU used more dribble penetration on the opposite wing to get him looks at the 3pt line.

Williams: Rebounds with authority. Looks good moving L to R into the lane so he can shoot the RH hook. Can score down low against players his size.

Watford: Good handle for size, has an effective crab dribble but I am doubtful if he can initiate his offense from the 3pt line, opponents will bother his dribble on the perimeter. I don't think he can score with a body on him down low. Shows no low post game. I think he can be effective putting the ball on the floor from the foul line area, he's gonna have to get points from the foul line with the dribble. Rebounded better in second half.

Hyatt: smooth shooter as a reserve.

Takeaway: This team does not show much of a low post game other than Williams flashing into the lane, but he can score. Days and Williams can outrebound players their size. I don't know if anybody on the team can score in traffic down low. Williams needs spacing to go one on one. Defense at the rim will not be the same with Kavell gone. He would be huge for this team. If Taylor has improved his ball handling and outside shot he will be very valuable, gonna need him to show some minutes moving to the 2 guard to spell Mays.

12 up, 6 down in the conference.




Posted by Rantavious
Bossier ''get down'' City
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 9:07 pm to
Does the DV care to comment?
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
10889 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 9:11 pm to
Yea...Watford has not been a great FT shooter prior to arriving at LSU.

I saw his summer circuit FT stats and it is an area in need of improvement.

Hopefully he can shoot at least 65% for the year because he is going to get the line a lot.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 9:31 pm to
Fun game on a non-football day. Radio said paid attendance was 8,600+. There were way more people in there than for a typical season game.

Tech has some promising new guys. No. 10 Armstead is one to watch. Made me think of Honey Badger.

Both teams terrible from the line. LSU way better 3 point percentage.

Hit Bad Wolf BBQ truck downtown for lunch. Good brisket, burnt ends, tacos, etc. Then a couple pints at Utility Brewing for pre-game Beer seemed improved over my visit last year. Both worth a visit if you’re in town.

Posted by UnoMe
Here
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Posted on 11/2/19 at 9:38 pm to
Would love to see the dunk contest at practice with
Taylor vs Manning

These dudes can jump
Posted by Tigers eyes
Member since Nov 2018
2649 posts
Posted on 11/2/19 at 11:20 pm to
quote:

Bishop:

He was very deadly and accurate from 3 in HS.
quote:

Williams:
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Can score down low against players his size.

Unfortunately if LSU wants him scoring in the post he will have to do it at some point against guys much taller than he is. With his long arms and vertical I'd imagine he could score in the post against guys up to 6'9", but not much taller. All depends on if the guy has a good vert or not, timing can be an issue as well. But LSU didn't have much of a low post game last season either. So, I'm sure CWW ca cook up some ways to get baskets close to the rim.
Did Cooper or Deshawn Thomas play? Man, was really hoping to get some quality minutes from these 2. Outside of them LSU has no height, no length, except Watford and from the sound of it he isn't going to help much in the post.
quote:

Manning:

CWW said he is the best player on the team. I watched that dude for almost 2 years in JUCO and he improved every year, especially his vertical and driving to the basket. Did you see anything to confirm CWW saying he is the best on the team?
Anyway thanks for the breakdown.
Posted by TigerLaw40
Member since Aug 2017
2790 posts
Posted on 11/3/19 at 12:57 am to
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Did Cooper or Deshawn Thomas play?

Cooper for sure played some towards the end of the game.
quote:

Man, was really hoping to get some quality minutes from these 2.

I wouldn’t bank on that happening. Barring players getting into early foul trouble, neither of them is likely to see quality minutes, as they will not be a part of main rotation.
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Outside of them LSU has no height, no length, except Watford

There is a difference in having length and height. While this team doesn’t have much overall height in the main rotation of players, there is plenty of length on the floor at all times.

And y’all have to chill on the height issue. I’m not saying we are going to win the SEC again, or a national championship, but we will be fine. In today’s game, height is mostly important for defensive purposes; but even that can be overcome some. As for offense, it is not as critical as it was 10-15-20 years ago. I mean, they just scored 83 in an exhibition game against a solid team; and they left several points at the line and on some easy shots at the rim. There have been rosters just in the last couple of years that have been very successful (one that did win a natty) that had exactly the same makeup of size LSU does this year.
Posted by Tiger1991
Member since Nov 2008
436 posts
Posted on 11/3/19 at 6:01 am to
Does ruston finally have a decent restaurant and bar scene? Haven't been there in years and hear there have been some attempts in this space.
This post was edited on 11/3/19 at 6:11 am
Posted by Reasonable227
Member since Oct 2019
700 posts
Posted on 11/3/19 at 6:01 am to
Don't tell me what I have to do. Wade is entering year 3. Is an elite 8 too much to ask for? Or are we a fanbase just happy to make the trny?
Posted by RoyalWe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2018
4934 posts
Posted on 11/3/19 at 6:35 am to
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Or are we a fanbase just happy to make the trny?
We know CWW isn't 'just happy' to make the tourney. I am certain our coach is taking all variables into account. We're going to go to war with what we've got and we can all agree there's some great talent there. I'm excited for the season to start.
Posted by The Truth 34
Chavez Ravine
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 11/3/19 at 8:02 am to
quote:

There have been rosters just in the last couple of years that have been very successful (one that did win a natty) that had exactly the same makeup of size LSU does this year.


Exactly. It’s all about the matchups you get in the tournament. If you can shoot the 3 well, you can beat anyone.
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
11087 posts
Posted on 11/3/19 at 8:09 am to
quote:

Don't tell me what I have to do. Wade is entering year 3. Is an elite 8 too much to ask for? Or are we a fanbase just happy to make the trny?

Making the tourney to Elite 8 is a big jump don’t you think?

In year 3 AT LSU, it’s absolutely too much to ask for. I’m not saying it’s not possible, but expecting it is ridiculous. I knew there would be people like you. Wade did so well in year 2 that he’ll be held to an unrealistic standard going forward. We could get bounced in the round of 32 and that wouldn’t change the fact that the program is on an upward trend.
Posted by mcpotiger
Missouri
Member since Mar 2005
9079 posts
Posted on 11/3/19 at 8:12 am to
Lol. Nope. Have about 27 Mexican restaurants.
Posted by Rosenblatt
Member since Apr 2019
6294 posts
Posted on 11/3/19 at 9:04 am to
Wow lol. I guess we found chinoyangs alter.

Coach Wade will have us in several elite 8 matchups. Again, chinoyang, given what the man inherited from a talent standpoint and from a culture standpoint, to even be discussing how far this team can go in the big dance is a credit to just how good Coach Wade is.
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
10889 posts
Posted on 11/3/19 at 9:14 am to
I'm convinced Johnny Jones and Alvin Gentry are the same person.

Super nice guys that are the epitome of "meh" coaches.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 11/3/19 at 9:18 am to
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Bishop: solid handle, but didn't look to score in second half. He is important to the team as a ball handler off the bench. Pretty obvious that he wants to score the ball, hope he can develop.



Not his role. He will average at best 5 ppg.

Solid assessment. Thanks for the review.
Posted by Rosenblatt
Member since Apr 2019
6294 posts
Posted on 11/3/19 at 9:19 am to
It’s incredible the expectations some posters have of Coach Wade given what he inherited.

The man led us to a conference championship in year 2. I don’t think anyone needs to doubt that we are in good hands.
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