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LSU vs Bama (redzone comparison)
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:35 am
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:35 am
I knew LSU struggled offensively in the redzone but I had no clue they were 115 in the country in redzone defense. Opponents have scored 16 out of 17 times.
Not shocked that Bama is #1 in both redzone offense and defense.
But why is LSU near the bottom in redzone defense? Is this a result of gifted field position due to turnovers or is it a real problem?
Not shocked that Bama is #1 in both redzone offense and defense.
But why is LSU near the bottom in redzone defense? Is this a result of gifted field position due to turnovers or is it a real problem?
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:38 am to treyk89
But how many times have they been in the red zone?
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:39 am to treyk89
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But how many times have they been in the red zone?
quote:
Opponents have scored 16 out of 17 times.
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:41 am to dreaux
not a lot, I realize that, but you have to admit it's still odd. LSU's defense ranks high in pretty much every other area, but that just seems wrong.
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:42 am to treyk89
Kinda hard to stop someone from scoring in the red zone when it is just a chip shot field goal
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:47 am to PortCityTiger82
"Kinda hard to stop someone from scoring in the red zone when it is just a chip shot field goal"
Bu this is true for everyone. Odd to see a good defense so low on this list.
Bu this is true for everyone. Odd to see a good defense so low on this list.
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:47 am to PortCityTiger82
quote:
Kinda hard to stop someone from scoring in the red zone when it is just a chip shot field goal
This. I never understood why they keep track of how many field goals someone kicks when they reach the red zone. The real stat is how many TDs does someone score or score against you once they reach the red zone.
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:48 am to N.O. via West-Cal
How many attempts does Bama have in that category?
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:48 am to PortCityTiger82
they've also given up TD's nearly 50% of the time as well. Either way, it still doesn't seem like a fluke.
(correction: they've given up 13 TD's and 3 FG's)
Look at their company. not the greatest
111 Baylor
112 Wake Forest
113 Ohio
114 Texas Tech
115 Colorado
LSU
117 Texas
118 Tenn
119 Hawaii
Conn
(correction: they've given up 13 TD's and 3 FG's)
Look at their company. not the greatest
111 Baylor
112 Wake Forest
113 Ohio
114 Texas Tech
115 Colorado
LSU
117 Texas
118 Tenn
119 Hawaii
Conn
This post was edited on 10/30/12 at 10:53 am
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:50 am to PortCityTiger82
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:50 am to Tigerpaul1969
Exactly. Plus each game is played differently. I'm sure a lot of teams played more aggressively vs Bama in the red zone trying to get 7 instead of just taking the sure 3 Pts vs us in a low scoring game
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:52 am to treyk89
More important red zone defense stat is points per red zone visit (i.e., are you giving up TDs or FGs). I wonder where LSU and Alabama rank there?
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:52 am to PortCityTiger82
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How many attempts does Bama have in that category?
35 drives in the red zone 34 scores. The lone miss was a fumble by AJ in the Mizzou game. The breakdown on scores is 26 TD's/8 FG's.
As far as Bama's RZ Def, they've allowed 15 drives into the RZ. 8 scores - 6 TD's/2 FG's
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:52 am to PortCityTiger82
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:52 am to elposter
That's a good question
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:56 am to elposter
quote:
More important red zone defense stat is points per red zone visit (i.e., are you giving up TDs or FGs). I wonder where LSU and Alabama rank there?
Looks like Alabama is giving up 48 points in 15 trips for a 3.2 average per red zone visit.
LSU is 97 points in 17 trips for a 5.7 average per red zone visit.
Pretty significant difference still.
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:57 am to elposter
quote:
More important red zone defense stat is points per red zone visit (i.e., are you giving up TDs or FGs). I wonder where LSU and Alabama rank there?
in 17 drives LSU has given up 13 td's and 3 fg's
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:58 am to PortCityTiger82
Redzone TD conversions:
Bama 11th 74.29%
Lsu 111th 47.06%
Redzone TD conversions allowed:
Bama 2nd 40%
Lsu 24th 76.47%
Bama 11th 74.29%
Lsu 111th 47.06%
Redzone TD conversions allowed:
Bama 2nd 40%
Lsu 24th 76.47%
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:59 am to PortCityTiger82
quote:
Kinda hard to stop someone from scoring in the red zone when it is just a chip shot field goal
LSU's allowed 13 TDs in 17 red zone defensive trips.
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:05 am to elposter
Red Zone Defense, Points per possession:
Alabama:
15 possessions, 48 points allowed: 3.2 points per possession
LSU:
17 possessions, 97 points allowed: 5.7 points per possession
Red Zone Offense, Points per possession:
Alabama:
35 possessions, 205 points scored: 5.9 points per possession
LSU:
34 possessions, 145 points scored: 4.3 points per possession
Alabama is clearly performing much better in the red zone on both sides of the ball so far based on pure numbers (of course this doesn't account for strength of possession).
Alabama:
15 possessions, 48 points allowed: 3.2 points per possession
LSU:
17 possessions, 97 points allowed: 5.7 points per possession
Red Zone Offense, Points per possession:
Alabama:
35 possessions, 205 points scored: 5.9 points per possession
LSU:
34 possessions, 145 points scored: 4.3 points per possession
Alabama is clearly performing much better in the red zone on both sides of the ball so far based on pure numbers (of course this doesn't account for strength of possession).
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