re: LSU suddenly the trendy dark horse

sims put up better overall stats

the point is that the alabama schools can take retreads and mold great offenses and QB performances rivaling our absolute apex under miles (mett in 2013, with that OL, running game, and WRs). LSU refuses to adapt and keeps trying to wait for 2013 talent to trot out a competent overall offense

i hope les finally has made the jump to consistency, but imagine if harris is a bust. if that happens, then what? no offense until 2018?

think about it

and NFL performance means nothing in this discussion. this is a discussion about college offenses

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That is not reloading Auburn went from 14-0 to 8-5. Went from the #7 offense to the 100th. Auburn went from 13-1 to 8-5 and that's with bringing back everything on offense minus the starting RB, and adding Duke.

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Auburn won a natty in 2010 and then got back in 2013 since the last time we won a natty.

1 title + 1 title failure + 2 SEC titles > 1 title failure + 1 SEC title

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Auburn is so got damn wishy washy you can't judge them from one year to the next.

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so you're telling me since 2008, you'd rather have LSU's results? one fewer national title and SEC title?

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LSU is more consistent by A LOT.

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and that means nothing if that consistency is lesser when you look at team goals

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Hey, if you want to go on record as seeing,"62% completion....21 TDs...5 ints...RAT...148", as "freak show" or "horror" material for LSU QBs playing perhaps the most difficult schedule in LSU history, knock yourself out.

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how many yards? you keep leaving it out

also, did you watch teh SEC title game and national title game?

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sims put up better overall stats

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2014 Sims: 252/391 3487 28 10
2013 Mett: 192/296 3082 22 8

That's a difference of...
60/95 405 yards 6 Touchdowns 2 Interceptions

The difference in stats results in a QB Rating of 115.6... for reference Anthony Jennings had a QB Rating of 118.3 for the 2014 season.. which basically means that you claim sims put up better stats because he threw the ball 100 times more than Mett did.

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LSU refuses to adapt and keeps trying to wait for 2013 talent to trot out a competent overall offense

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2008 - 117.42 QBR 206/391 2617 yards 21 TD 18 INT
... Pretty bad, but this comes in a season where our starting QB was dismissed from the team, our backup QB broke his leg, and our third string QB injured his ankle... or whatever Lee's injury was.

2009 - 131.91 QBR 198/336 2363 yards 19 TD 8 INT
... Not great, but not terrible. Getting that type of production will result in a successful offensive season at LSU more often than not. Unfortunately, LSU finished 11th in the conference (prior to SEC realignment) in rushing that year, missing out on finishing last by only 20 yards.

2010 - 117.59 QBR 173/301 2023 yards 10 TD 11 INT
... Absolutely abysmal. I have no fricking clue what Gary Crowton was trying to do that year, but it didn't work and resulted in his termination.

2011 - 147.55 QBR 173/279 2135 yards 21 TD 5 INT
... A terrific year by any measure. Unfortunately, we faced the best defense of this decade twice in this season, and the second time, they were madder than a hornet's nest.

2012 - 127.13 QBR 208/356 2607 yards 12 TD 7 INT
... Not a great season, but this team really turned the corner at season's end, finishing with 200+ passing yards in 4 of the last 5 games.

2014 - 128.26 QBR 138/276 2118 yards 17 TD 9 INT
... It was a terrible passing year, aside from some glimmers from Harris. But I don't know what you would have expected from a true soph. QB with 1 career start, a rd. soph. WR with 7 career catches, and a plethora of true freshmen.

I hope I don't need to break down 2005-07 and 2013 for you.

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sims put up better overall stats

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No he didn't, I posted the stat lines earlier. Mett had a 20 point advantage in Eff Rating and threw for more YPG. Their completion % were the same. Sims threw for more total yards and tds because he played in 14 games vs. 12.

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Auburn won a natty in 2010 and then got back in 2013 since the last time we won a natty.

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2007 - LSU SECC, NC
2010 - Aub SECC, NC
2011 - LSU SECC, NC app
2013 - Aub SECC, NC app

Record since 2007:
LSU 81-25 (45-22)
Aub 67-37 (35-31)

Yep, if you want to take AU's more recent success, you would have to live with the 2 losing seasons that came with it in that stretch. Anyone who says that they would not flinch at the thought of handling losing seasons is lying to themselves.

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if you want to take AU's more recent success, you would have to live with the 2 losing seasons that came with it in that stretch. Anyone who says that they would not flinch at the thought of handling losing seasons is lying to themselves.

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years like 2008 and 2014 are as bad as losing seasons to me, in all honesty

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that's a cute stat but it's meaningless when discussing overall offense. i don't care if we have 1, 2,000 yard receiver or 2, 1,000 yard receivers. regardless it's all the same in terms of team stats

3rd down efficiency is a legit measure with merit, but it's a very limited, situational stat. a truly elite offense doesn't worry as much about 3rd down efficiency because you don't face many of them (and a modern offense doesn't care b/c you should go for it on 4th most times)

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You sound frickin retarded man.

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LSU's offense led the nation in third-down efficiency last season by converting for a first down or touchdown 57.1 percent of the time.

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converting for a first down

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or touchdown

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57.1 percent of the time

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jennings' accuracy everywhere was bad. that's why he was sub-50% passing in the modern era (which is more terrible than most people truly imagine)

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I said Jennings was awful with his accuracy on intermediate & short throws but don't kid yourself thinking he wasn't accurate on his deep throws. It's the only throws he hit with any consistency.








vs Sam Houston 28 yard TD to Dural

vs Wisconsin 80 yard TD to Dural

vs Wisconsin 44 yard pass to Dural

vs Mississippi State 49 yard pass to Dural.

vs Kentucky 32 yard TD pass to Dural @ 0:40

vs Notre Dame 75 yard TD to Diarse

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and i only bring up sims because even with 2013 being an outlier and our best offense under miles post-jimbo's QBs, because bama had a down year with a throwaway QB and he did better than mett did)

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You sound frickin retarded man.

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what does it matter if we have 2 WRs who hit a magical statistical plateau that only even has some sort of significance b/c we use base 10?

and 3rd down efficiency is a very limited measure. it has merit but a very limited applicability