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re: LSU schedule ranked 5th toughest by both NCAA and Phil Steele

Posted on 7/18/11 at 3:49 pm to
Posted by jladne3
Seabrook, TX
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/18/11 at 3:49 pm to
I wonder if any team has ever had to play the past 3 national champions plus last years runner up in the same season... sounds pretty difficult to me
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
62248 posts
Posted on 7/18/11 at 3:50 pm to
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Ones that probably dont have Northwestern State and Western Kentucky dragging it down



His #2 and #3 schedule have two open dates. Their OOC games are TCU, Stephen F Austin, Rice and Northern Iowa, UConn, and Iowa. So they both play a D1AA team as well. I guess it would've been better for LSU to just have an open date instead of playing WKU or NSU.
Posted by 7thWardTiger
Richmond, Texas
Member since Nov 2009
24670 posts
Posted on 7/18/11 at 3:52 pm to
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The 2nd schedule is a joke. The other 3 are legit.
the first schedule is colorado FWIW. They play 13 straight, no open date in their first year in the Pac 12
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
62248 posts
Posted on 7/18/11 at 3:52 pm to
Only thing that makes Colorado's tough is no open date.
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
54026 posts
Posted on 7/18/11 at 3:58 pm to
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I believe the most devoted Miles acolytes are already laying a foundation to use the schedule as an excuse for failing to win either the SEC or the NC in 2011.


Vs you already finding a way to bash them? Our tough schedule isn't anything new guy.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216454 posts
Posted on 7/18/11 at 4:10 pm to
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Laughable. Show me 4 tougher schedules.



Oregon St. and Colorado have tougher schedules. Rado has ZERO Bye weeks and 8 road games. LSU has the toughest schd out of theams that have a shot at the NC easy.
Posted by 7thWardTiger
Richmond, Texas
Member since Nov 2009
24670 posts
Posted on 7/18/11 at 4:16 pm to
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LSU has the toughest schd out of theams that have a shot at the NC easy.
this
Posted by Ghostfacedistiller
BR
Member since Jun 2008
17501 posts
Posted on 7/18/11 at 4:17 pm to
For the sake of comparison, here are CU's and LSU's top games per the Sporting News Poll. Obviously it's not an exact science but...come on?


5 Oregon* or 5 Oregon -Neutral > Home
3. @Alabama or 4. @Stanford
11. Arkansas or 17. @Ohio State
18. Auburn or 21. @Utah
20. @Mississippi State or 23. Arizona State
22. @West Virginia or 25. USC
30. Florida or 49. Arizona
37. @Tennessee or 57. @Washington
52. Kentucky or 61. @Hawaii
@73. Ole Miss or 66. Cal
118. Western Kentucky or 82. Colorado State
Northwestern State or 84. @UCLA

LINK






Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12954 posts
Posted on 7/18/11 at 4:23 pm to
That's insignifcant. Show me who doesn't have a couple of creampuffs?
Given that Oregon, WVU are favorites to win BCS conferences, plus Bama, Florida, Arkansas, Auburn, Miss State, I'd says thats damn strong. The Vols, Ole MisS, UK have some fine athletes as well.
Phil Steele is the most overrated "analyst".
Posted by Tigah32
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
5721 posts
Posted on 7/18/11 at 4:33 pm to
Easily #1. They just factored in opponents W/L's last year. Not the fact that we have to play Oregon in Dallas, Bama in Tuscaloosa, State at State, at Tennessee, West Virginia at Morgantown. We also have to play Arkansas, UF and AU (though we do play them in Baton Rouge). I hate to sound like a homer but our SOS has to be #1.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
62248 posts
Posted on 7/18/11 at 4:34 pm to
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They just factored in opponents W/L's last year.


No...no he didn't...Read the link again.
Posted by Tigah32
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
5721 posts
Posted on 7/18/11 at 4:37 pm to
We play
1 team that is top 25 caliber in Tennessee
4 teams that are top 20 caliber- UF, WV, State and AU.
1 team that is top 10 caliber- Arky
2 teams that are top 5 caliber- Oregon and Bama


Posted by Tigah32
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
5721 posts
Posted on 7/18/11 at 4:39 pm to
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No...no he didn't...Read the link again.
Dropped the ball, my bad. I still don't think there's anyway we easily don't have the toughest schedule. Maybe its just IMO but I thought it was pretty obvious.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216454 posts
Posted on 7/18/11 at 4:40 pm to
I could care less. If you have 8 road games and play 13 straight weeks, Thats tougher than What LSU has to go through.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 7/18/11 at 4:40 pm to
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Finally, I grow weary of excuses for failing to appear in Atlanta


LSU has appeared in Atlanta as many times as any school in the SEC west and has many SEC titles as any school in the SEC West since 2005.

When you have done as well as any school in the SEC west and as good as any school in the SEC, but for Flor, why would LSU have to excuse anything???

Perhaps you should be thankful for what LSU has has done since 05...such as...the 2 west titles, the SEC title, having the most SEC wins of schools in the west, having a Top 5 ranking in winning percentage among BCS schools, a 28-1 OOC record, a 5-1 bowl record, and a NC since 05.

Just my opinion.
Posted by Mike Linebacker
Texas
Member since Sep 2009
3404 posts
Posted on 7/18/11 at 5:03 pm to
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I believe the most devoted Miles acolytes are already laying a foundation to use the schedule as an excuse for failing to win either the SEC or the NC in 2011.


Well, if that happens, it's probably true. We play in the toughest division in football. We have Florida and Tennessee in the East (two of the contenders in the East). We play the best team in the Pac-12 and the best team in the Big East. Oh yeah, and you can only lose 1 game and have a legitimate shot at the NC.

So, my friend, if LSU goes 9-3 and 10-2, and fails to make Atlanta or NOLA, I think a big reason for that is the fact that our schedule provided for no "get healthy" games save 2.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37517 posts
Posted on 7/18/11 at 5:04 pm to
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For the sake of comparison, here are CU's and LSU's top games per the Sporting News Poll. Obviously it's not an exact science but...come on?


5 Oregon* or 5 Oregon -Neutral > Home
3. @Alabama or 4. @Stanford
11. Arkansas or 17. @Ohio State
18. Auburn or 21. @Utah
20. @Mississippi State or 23. Arizona State
22. @West Virginia or 25. USC
30. Florida or 49. Arizona
37. @Tennessee or 57. @Washington
52. Kentucky or 61. @Hawaii
@73. Ole Miss or 66. Cal
118. Western Kentucky or 82. Colorado State
Northwestern State or 84. @UCLA




colorado's is harder for them because they are a mediocre to bad team and will struggle against middling competition

for a top ten school LSU's schedule is harder because there are a few more probable highly ranked teams
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 7/18/11 at 5:15 pm to
Laughable, but if people think that Preseason polls are stupid, then preseason schedule rankings are even worse. There is no way to tell how good certain teams will be until the season is over. I would imagine LSU's schedule at the end of the season will prove to be the toughest in the country.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 7/18/11 at 5:21 pm to
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yes, much better to rate it based on ranter rankings instead?


I think W/L percentage is the dumb part. That logic would say that a team who faces 5 teams who were 10-0 and 5 teams who were 0-10 has just as tough a schedule as a team who faces 10 teams who were 5-5. Both would have a schedule with a 50% winning percentage, although one is certainly "tougher".

If you are going to use last year's information, which is all that is available in the preaseason, you should weight the extremes properly.
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
17571 posts
Posted on 7/18/11 at 5:26 pm to
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I believe the most devoted Miles acolytes are already laying a foundation to use the schedule as an excuse for failing to win either the SEC or the NC in 2011.


You seem like a cool person.
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