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re: LSU runs all over UGA on Saturday
Posted on 10/22/08 at 4:15 pm to FrodgieBoolatz
Posted on 10/22/08 at 4:15 pm to FrodgieBoolatz
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You know, because Tulane, Kentucky, Western Kentucky, etc. have great running games. What a dumb argument.
did i brag about our run game rankings? and if the UK Tulane etc... reference is hinting at our weak schedule....41-30 in Athens...if yall shut down our run gm it would not have been such a blowout...now ole miss shut down our run game and we nearly lost
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Posted on 10/22/08 at 4:16 pm to VtitanY10
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did i brag about our run game rankings?
Do you think Alabama's DL is also soft then?
Posted on 10/22/08 at 4:18 pm to FrodgieBoolatz
Anoter factor is that Georgia with Stafford is not as mobile as Florida and S Carolina.
When pressered is when he makes his mistakes. He needs to stay in the pocket. Marineo need open lanes to get started.
When pressered is when he makes his mistakes. He needs to stay in the pocket. Marineo need open lanes to get started.
Posted on 10/22/08 at 4:20 pm to FrodgieBoolatz
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but it wouldn't explain having 100 yards less than their game average (if anything it would suggest the opposite given many more running plays).
It's not quite 100 yards below their average (about 80) but it's understood you typically will have lower averages when you play better teams...
Also, they possibly could of had a much higher yards per carry average than they did if they just continued to run their normal offense that put up 31 on you in the first half instead of their "run on every down" offense like they did in the 2nd half that only netted them 10.
In the 2nd half I see they had 19 rushing plays and 5 passing plays (not counting special teams plays). The 19 rushing plays only netted them 37 yards. That means in the first half when they ran their normal offense and only had a couple more runs they netted 92 yards.
Posted on 10/22/08 at 4:21 pm to FrodgieBoolatz
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Run defense wasn't Georgia's problem against Alabama. And even if it was, we are 7 games into the season, and Georgia has given up the 3rd fewest rushing yards in the country. The guy seriously is making the point that that is entirely explained by weak opponents. You know, because Tulane, Kentucky, Western Kentucky, etc. have great running games.
Well like I said, Georgia has only played one game against a good rushing offense and they gave up 129 yards and 4 TDs on the ground. The rest of the teams don't have good rushing offenses Georgia's faced...
GA Southern = 46th in IAA
Central Michigan = 86th
South Carolina = 109th
Arizona State = 117th
Tennessee = 85th
Vanderbilt = 57th
This post was edited on 10/22/08 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 10/22/08 at 4:26 pm to thunderbird1100
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Well like I said, Georgia has only played one game against a good rushing offense and they gave up 129 yards and 4 TDs on the ground. The rest of the teams don't have good rushing offenses Georgia's faced...
GA Southern = 46th in IAA
Central Michigan = 86th
South Carolina = 109th
Arizona State = 117th
Tennessee = 85th
Vanderbilt = 57th
Again, we are 7 games into the season. Do you not think you couldn't do this with pretty much every team? Where are you thinking UGA's run defense is going to end up in 5 more games... 50th?
This post was edited on 10/22/08 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 10/22/08 at 4:27 pm to thunderbird1100
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Do you think Alabama's DL is also soft then?
without Cody? eh maybe i wouldnt say we are the greatest run defense in the world from a D-line point of view...we get a lot of help from McClain Hightower etc...we held i believe the SEC's leading rusher from Ark out of the endzone first and goal from the 1 (yes i saw UGA's stand vs USC so dont fire back with that) we held Moreno in check but that could be because we had a big lead..who knows if the gm was close in the 4th how we would have held up..i was disappointed in the long run we gave up against Ole Miss
Posted on 10/22/08 at 4:29 pm to VtitanY10
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without Cody?
Given that he's played most of almost every game till now, let's say with Cody.
Now again, is Alabama's run defense soft?
Posted on 10/22/08 at 4:32 pm to FrodgieBoolatz
The Cody loss is tough. But word on the street is that he will be back on Nov. 8.
If LSU can pull off the upset this weekend, the Nov. 8 game is going to be the game of the week.
If LSU can pull off the upset this weekend, the Nov. 8 game is going to be the game of the week.
Posted on 10/22/08 at 4:34 pm to FrodgieBoolatz
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Again, we are 7 games into the season. Do you not think you couldn't do this with pretty much every team? Where are you thinking UGA's run defense is going to end up in 5 more games... 50th?
I'm not saying you'll fall flat on your face. Just using some logical thinking here.
Doesn't it make sense to you the most yards you've given up this year on the ground were to the 3 teams who had the best rushing offenses you've faced (Bama - most, Vandy - 2nd most, GA South - 3rd most)?
Posted on 10/22/08 at 4:37 pm to FrodgieBoolatz
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Now again, is Alabama's run defense soft?
i would say No. we gave up 158 i believe against Ole Miss.. they scored one on a fake FG...we havent played the best running teams in the country (UGA and Clemson) in hindsight..so its tough to tell... LSU is when we will know about our run Defense cause they are phyical on both lines.. But im not gonna say we arent soft b/c we are ranked #x in the country in run D...cause IMO that doesnt matter...
Posted on 10/22/08 at 4:41 pm to VtitanY10
BAMA aint soft on defense.
Sorry to hurt your feelings, but no team goes into Clemson, or into Athens and does what Bama did if they are soft up front.
No doubt they have a second half problem. And that has Saban's name written all over it. Saban's teams always seem to have a weird psychological flaw. But his teams often (2003) overcome this flaw.
Sorry to hurt your feelings, but no team goes into Clemson, or into Athens and does what Bama did if they are soft up front.
No doubt they have a second half problem. And that has Saban's name written all over it. Saban's teams always seem to have a weird psychological flaw. But his teams often (2003) overcome this flaw.
Posted on 10/22/08 at 4:42 pm to thunderbird1100
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I'm not saying you'll fall flat on your face. Just using some logical thinking here.
Doesn't it make sense to you the most yards you've given up this year on the ground were to the 3 teams who had the best rushing offenses you've faced (Bama - most, Vandy - 2nd most, GA South - 3rd most)?
Of course. And the same would be the case for most other teams as well.
Georgia's played a very good running team, a few average ones, and a few bad ones. 7 games into the season, that is pretty much what you will find with most teams. And given all that, Georgia comes out having given up the 3rd fewest yards of all 120 D1A teams.
We have one of the best DTs in the country and are very deep at the position with 2 great LBs right behind them. Whatever Georgia's other weaknesses (i.e. OL, pass rush), that our run defense is near the top of the list statistically shouldn't be much of a surprise.
Posted on 10/22/08 at 4:43 pm to jacksimmons2000
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BAMA aint soft on defense.
Sorry to hurt your feelings, but no team goes into Clemson, or into Athens and does what Bama did if they are soft up front.
Who said they were soft? You missed the point.
He is saying that Georgia has a soft run defense... yet 7 games into the season Alabama/Georgia are 2 of the top 4 run defenses in the country statistically.
Whatever one wants to say about either team, saying that either has a soft run defense is just stupid.
This post was edited on 10/22/08 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 10/22/08 at 4:44 pm to FrodgieBoolatz
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but no team goes into Clemson
we didnt "go into Clemson" it was in the Dome...and yes i believe they do...Gtech and Wake surely did
Posted on 10/22/08 at 4:46 pm to ILikeFootball
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he can trash georgia, but what does he see that makes lsu 2 or more td favorites?
Well, he said Georgia was soft up front, and that LSU is superior on the offensive line. Say what you want about our pass coverage issues and our QB's mistakes, but we've been pretty good in the offensive line. Nobody on our team played well at Florida, but the OL has been pretty solid other than that. Auburn and Mississippi State, regardless of what other problems they might have, are at least pretty good on defense, especially against the run, and our OL won the battle at the line of scrimmage against both of them, allowing our running game to be very effective.
Posted on 10/22/08 at 4:47 pm to VtitanY10
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Whatever one wants to say about either team, saying that either has a soft run defense is just stupid.
Why? b/c of stats? in yalls biggest home gm this year we scored rushing at will...dont u think that is more telling than your statistical ranking...the weak opponents argument is valid b/c it skews your ranking...but when you played on THE FIELD against a good run team (us) we scored rushing TD's at will...thats why i say your run defense is soft...Most good teams give up very few rushing TD's throughout the course of a season
Posted on 10/22/08 at 4:50 pm to VtitanY10
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he can trash georgia, but what does he see that makes lsu 2 or more td favorites?
because football starts up front...here is y i say "LSU is a two TD favorite" to put it in those words i believe the game is close with LSU having a seven point lead late (so actually a 7 point favorite) and then Stafford forces the issue LATE in the game giving LSU their 23rd and 24th pt late in the game for your 14 pt margin...is that so crazy? is that a dumb prediction for this game in Tiger Stadium?
Posted on 10/22/08 at 4:52 pm to VtitanY10
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Why? b/c of stats?
Because we have one of the best DTs in the country, are very deep at the position, have 2 great LBs backing them up, and a CB (Asher Allen) that is great in run defense as well.
That is why we are ranked 3rd in the country in run defense. Our schedule has been no different than Alabama's as far as the average running game we have faced goes.
Numbers and logic apparently confuse you greatly... which probably explains your extreme aversion to statistics.
This post was edited on 10/22/08 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 10/22/08 at 4:52 pm to VtitanY10
Clemson - Dome 
OK - but I don't think Bama is soft up front, and by soft up front, I mean soft against the run. The stats don't tell the whole story, mainly because Bama has fallen apart in the second half. I think that is not a problem with the run defense. I think that is a problem with Saban's coaching.
OK - but I don't think Bama is soft up front, and by soft up front, I mean soft against the run. The stats don't tell the whole story, mainly because Bama has fallen apart in the second half. I think that is not a problem with the run defense. I think that is a problem with Saban's coaching.
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