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re: LSU please make on offer on SB's hitting coach

Posted on 6/10/12 at 8:01 pm to
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
34091 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 8:01 pm to
So you are saying we should do nothing?
Posted by lsuprof
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
502 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 8:02 pm to
It sounds like there are a lot of people thinking the same way! We need to bring on SB's hitting coach to our staff ASAP.
Posted by Swagga
504
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 8:04 pm to
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And when we're still getting 4 hits a game what will be your next brilliant idea?


So what's the problem/solution?
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
34091 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 8:05 pm to
Gotta love the smart arse comment to make you think I know more but provide zero insight to the conversation.
Posted by POTROAST
LSU fan In Portland
Member since Oct 2009
340 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 8:10 pm to
The problem is the hitting approach or lack there of.
Posted by Tigercat
Tacoma, WA
Member since Feb 2004
4518 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 8:10 pm to
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And when we're still getting 4 hits a game what will be your next brilliant idea?


You're right. It isn't the hitting coach. LSU just can't recruit hitters. I am pretty sure over the last 4 years we have only been offering scholarships to HS players that played on their teams' bench. Yup, no hitting talent recruited here. No need to blame coaching. We would get 4 hits a game under any coach. No need to assume that any halfway decent coach should regularly get 5+ runs a game out of a team with LSU's recruiting. Yup, nothing to see here, move along now.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
30057 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 8:13 pm to
So did we need a new hitting coach in 2009 too?
Posted by Tigercat
Tacoma, WA
Member since Feb 2004
4518 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 8:18 pm to
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So did we need a new hitting coach in 2009 too?


We didn't need a OC better than Crowton in '07 either.

2009 doesn't change the fact that we are in a multiple year pattern of failing horribly based on our resources available. That should get a person fired; settling for failure is unacceptable.
This post was edited on 6/10/12 at 8:19 pm
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
Laffy
Member since Jan 2007
28643 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 8:20 pm to
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You're right. It isn't the hitting coach. LSU just can't recruit hitters. I am pretty sure over the last 4 years we have only been offering scholarships to HS players that played on their teams' bench. Yup, no hitting talent recruited here. No need to blame coaching. We would get 4 hits a game under any coach. No need to assume that any halfway decent coach should regularly get 5+ runs a game out of a team with LSU's recruiting. Yup, nothing to see here, move along now.


So we recruit good hitters, but then coach them into the ground thereby negating their talent?


OK
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
30057 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 8:21 pm to
At least it's 1 person with a brain in here
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
Laffy
Member since Jan 2007
28643 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 8:23 pm to
This place is painful to stay around when LSU isn't performing well 100% of the time.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68435 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 8:26 pm to
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This place is painful to stay around when LSU isn't performing well 100% of the time.


So you're satisfied with a top 3 program like LSU not getting to Omaha in the last 3 years. Gotcha.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
34091 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 8:27 pm to
so you think these guys are being developed to hit at the college level?
Posted by Tigercat
Tacoma, WA
Member since Feb 2004
4518 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 8:34 pm to
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This place is painful to stay around when LSU isn't performing well 100% of the time.


You can critique a successful program that isn't being the best they can be by not making the obvious change. LAST year the pitching overachieved above the hitting. PM hit a homerun in the new hire for pitching coach, but the pitching had no business being better than abysmal last year, and yet they held their own in many instances. We had a freshman that throws in the low 80s as a Friday starter for God's sakes!

Its called perspective, recognizing what PARTS of the whole aren't achieving near their best.

Consistency at the mound is the #1 duty of a pitching coach, consistency at the plate is the #1 duty of a hitting coach. When we have a team that leads the SEC in batting average but consistently can't make the big hit against mediocre pitching, that is a hitting coach issue.
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18852 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 8:35 pm to
Javi won't be fired. He has nude pics of Mainieri.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
30057 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 8:36 pm to
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so you think these guys are being developed to hit at the college level?


were they in 2009? i'm sure the method of coaching hasn't changed
Posted by Tigercat
Tacoma, WA
Member since Feb 2004
4518 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 8:43 pm to
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were they in 2009? i'm sure the method of coaching hasn't changed


So he gets a free pass forever? Untimely instances near shutout games are tolerated forever because Javy was on staff in 2009?

I guess we should just give him a lifetime contract now.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
30057 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 8:45 pm to
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So he gets a free pass forever? Untimely instances near shutout games are tolerated forever because Javy was on staff in 2009?


that's not my point. maybe these guys just are not very good hitters, regardless of who's coaching them
Posted by Swagga
504
Member since Dec 2009
16206 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 8:47 pm to
Then that's an even bigger problem IMO.
Posted by abitaman68
Prairiville
Member since Sep 2005
20 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 8:50 pm to
And that's the problem. It hasn't changed but because of the bats the game has. LSU had multiple double digit home run players on the 2009 team. That's not likely to ever be the case again. But yet the approach still seems to be to rely on power. I have only seen a few guys, Nola, Rhymes and Edward consistently go the other way with the ball. Everyone else tries to pull everything, thus all the ground outs to the middle infield and weak fly balls.
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