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re: LSU players deserve to have a real offensive coordinator...
Posted on 1/7/13 at 11:34 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 1/7/13 at 11:34 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Their offense is light years ahead of ours. It's not just execution. Their plays look 10x as sophisticated as ours
You guys are missing my point, If we had the same offensive script as Bama had tonight, the results would be night and day. Bama's offense looks light years ahead of ours because their execution is light years ahead of ours. How can you gloss over execution when Nick Saban preaches execution religiously
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Posted on 1/7/13 at 11:38 pm to la_birdman
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Sure am praying Miles was taking notes
Taking notes requires brains. Les doesn't have any.
Prior to 08 he at least had Lesticles. He lost them and now he's just confused and scared.
Posted on 1/7/13 at 11:41 pm to CanIPlay636
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You guys are missing my point, If we had the same offensive script as Bama had tonight, the results would be night and day. Bama's offense looks light years ahead of ours because their execution is light years ahead of ours.
Their design is light years ahead of ours.
Posted on 1/7/13 at 11:44 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I'd sure like to see how Bama's design works out with our OL and inconsistant QB play
Posted on 1/7/13 at 11:46 pm to CanIPlay636
Ah, well. You'll believe what you want to believe.
La Tech have better talent than LSU offensively? 2/3rds of all FBS teams have better talent than LSU, so they can execute a better offense?
La Tech have better talent than LSU offensively? 2/3rds of all FBS teams have better talent than LSU, so they can execute a better offense?
This post was edited on 1/7/13 at 11:50 pm
Posted on 1/7/13 at 11:48 pm to Housplants
How bout we get a new coach, OC, and AD? They all suck, especially the AD he's got the nuts of a four year old.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:13 am to ruger
quote:Alleva getting cold feet and scared because of the R-Kansas situation should have every LSU diehard fan and alum infuriated.
He got his contract extension and raise. He knows unless he loses 4+ games a year, he isn't going anywhere.
Pumpers love it though. 10-3. Fourth place in the SEC. Chicken Bowl loss.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:29 am to CanIPlay636
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Alabama would not be here tonight without the players executing
I love the clowns on here that blame LSU's offensive problems on execution. It is very difficult to execute plays perfectly against teams that have similar talent levels when they can tell what the play is by the personnel and formation.
When we required Bama to defend only about 5% of the field throughout the entire championship game last year, the players could not execute the offensive plays...because Bama was able to just load up.
Sure, you have to execute, but it makes things a bit easier to do that if the other team has to react to a diversified offense.
When I watch our games, it makes me think that our coaches watch too much high school tape and do not watch any college offenses.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:30 am to CanIPlay636
"Bama's offense looks light years ahead of ours because their execution is light years ahead of ours. How can you gloss over execution when Nick Saban preaches execution religiously"
This...In actuallity their offense is not super sophisticated at all...They are just much more disciplined and execute better than LSU...Not talking about just the players...OC and Head coach have to execute the plays in such a manner that makes a team less predictable...
Look this applies at any level...Anyone here in the Bay Area watch De La Salle play...The most winninest High School program in the country over the past 20 years..They play a top ranked schools from all around the country and kick their asses..Reason...Execution to perfection..De La Salle basically has a 15-20 play playbook, but they do it to perfection and they look like an NFL team against the best teams in the country.
Bama is the same at the next level..Not a super sophisticated offense, the players and the OC just execute it to almost perfection...Discipline, Execution, Speed and talent always wins out over Speed and Talent
This...In actuallity their offense is not super sophisticated at all...They are just much more disciplined and execute better than LSU...Not talking about just the players...OC and Head coach have to execute the plays in such a manner that makes a team less predictable...
Look this applies at any level...Anyone here in the Bay Area watch De La Salle play...The most winninest High School program in the country over the past 20 years..They play a top ranked schools from all around the country and kick their asses..Reason...Execution to perfection..De La Salle basically has a 15-20 play playbook, but they do it to perfection and they look like an NFL team against the best teams in the country.
Bama is the same at the next level..Not a super sophisticated offense, the players and the OC just execute it to almost perfection...Discipline, Execution, Speed and talent always wins out over Speed and Talent
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:37 am to Cali-to-Death Valley
No matter what the reason the offensive problems aren't getting solved in house. If you hire a competent OC then step back and let him do his job when can have at top 40 or 50 offense nationally. It's crazy but when did a top 40 offense seem like a dream or fantasy LSU offensive goal?
Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:43 am to peopleschamp
2008 fricked les miles head all up
he has a stranglehold on it, and will not relinquish it ever.
he has a stranglehold on it, and will not relinquish it ever.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 5:26 am to Housplants
Its the only thing holding us back and Les knows it..we wont be in a NC game till we get a real OC
Posted on 1/8/13 at 6:45 am to Housplants
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Watching the title game, it is stunning to see what a team with essentially the same talent level as ours can do when running a real offensive scheme.
Are you fricking kidding me? The same talent level? are you telling me that McCarron and Mettenberger are equivalent? Our O-line is as good as theirs? Its not even close even without the losses. Which receiver on LSU is as good as Amari Cooper, a freshman? Lacy and Yeldon are better than any 2 backs that we have. It sickens me to say this but their offensive talent is way ahead of ours.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 7:08 am to Bob Loblah
It takes a real coordinator to call run plays right up the middle for over 200yds? Get real. Alabama QB had like 8 seconds to throw the ball. The RB's had huge holes to run through and ND did not tackle. That was O line domination.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 7:51 am to Bob Loblah
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Are you fricking kidding me? The same talent level? are you telling me that McCarron and Mettenberger are equivalent? Our O-line is as good as theirs? Its not even close even without the losses. Which receiver on LSU is as good as Amari Cooper, a freshman? Lacy and Yeldon are better than any 2 backs that we have. It sickens me to say this but their offensive talent is way ahead of ours.
That's part of it, someone needs to try and bring the level of talent on offense up to the level on defense. LSU has some good RB's and few good OL, but that's about where it ends. Not getting into the ZM debate, he was serviceable when the OL wasn't playing against upper tier front 7's, which, unfortunately they will play at least 4x per season in any given season.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 7:54 am to LuckySo-n-So
let's promote Less. In fact he could add AD to his HC and OC titles
This post was edited on 1/8/13 at 7:55 am
Posted on 1/8/13 at 7:59 am to cheeser
wish LSU would run more screen plays to the RB and would like to see more playactions with the QB rolling afterwards to make it easier to get time for the QB.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:18 am to Housplants
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I love the clowns on here that blame LSU's offensive problems on execution. It is very difficult to execute plays perfectly against teams that have similar talent levels when they can tell what the play is by the personnel and formation.
When we required Bama to defend only about 5% of the field throughout the entire championship game last year, the players could not execute the offensive plays...because Bama was able to just load up.
Sure, you have to execute, but it makes things a bit easier to do that if the other team has to react to a diversified offense.
When I watch our games, it makes me think that our coaches watch too much high school tape and do not watch any college offenses.
Call me what you want, but I know if we change offensive philiosphy without the execution, it won't work. Am I saying that its only execution, no. But I am saying its the main reason. Now coaches must prepare the guys and that's where I believe we fall short. When we played Bama this year we didn't change our offensive scheme, yet we moved the ball fairly easy. Now what I believe happend is we got ultra conservative at the end which opened the door for Bama. Before we totally dismiss the pro style offense (well ours sure doesn't look pro) Let me ask, how many wide open, gimmickey offenses have won the NC in the last 10 years?
Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:28 am to Housplants
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Watching the title game, it is stunning to see what a team with essentially the same talent level as ours can do when running a real offensive scheme
we run the same scheme. bama isn't a spread team. many on here think that the spread is the only way to go but there's no proof of that, esp in the trophy case. believe me, tejas a&m w/o jff is a mid level slightly better than avg team. the problem with our "scheme" is that our execution is inconsistent and our tendencies are strong, thus allowing many of our plays to be telegraphed and causing enough break downs to prevent first downs. add a qb that is not accurate with his passes and you get us; a team that wins a lot, albeit barely, because of an excellent defense and excellent speacial teams but a below avg, sputtering offense.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:28 am to CanIPlay636
The problem is what talented players would want to come play in our very bad offense when they could go to practically any other big name school and put themselves in a better position? I think right now if my son was a bigtime QB or WR and it was down to LSU and some others I would lean somewhere else unless changes were made because of how bad productivity has been.
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