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re: LSU outlook for hosting a regional

Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:19 pm to
Posted by rob62
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:19 pm to
LSU won 2 of 3 vs. The figs. In every other location but College Station that is a series WIN!!

If your player plays like Charlie Brown it isn't our fault. You are the Aggies. The Aggies are you. Lol.
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 5:20 pm
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:29 pm to
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If I'm remembering right it's been quite a while since a 17-win SEC team has hosted a regional.

It's been even longer since a 16-win team hosted. I think aTm's chances are not as great as they think because the committee has generally taken conference results into very high consideration


Things are kind of different this year, with the top to bottom talent in the SEC. 13 SEC win teams usually aren't sniffing a regional, but Florida has a legit shot, Mizzou is more than likely in, and Auburn is in with just 14.
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 5:29 pm
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:32 pm to
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All those midweek games matter now


It may in fact play a big factor in us hosting or not, simply because we only won 17 SEC games.

Win one more against Mizzou and/or finish the comeback against Ole Miss, and this midweek games mean absolutely nothing.

I'm not going to get deep into the midweek matters/doesn't matter BS, because that's not what this thread is about. But the midweeks don't really matter when you are winning 20 SEC games, which is what we came to expect LSU to do. Bottom line, this season might go down as a disappointment, but it will not be mainly because of losing midweek games.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:45 pm to
The more I look at it, the more I don't like LSU's chances of hosting.

They have the 11 teams I listed.

Then Oregon St, Miami, NC State are likely to host. That takes it to 14.

So, for the final 2 spots you have:

UCSB - all depends what the committee wants to do with them.

aTm - if they have a better run than LSU in the SECT, have to believe they aren't ahead of us.

Baylor/WVU - both of these compare to LSU in some categories. One, or both can make a deep tourney run and make a case for themselves over LSU.

Then you have Indiana/Illinois, if the committee wants to give the Big 10 a host. Neither resume will top LSU though.

Then there is also Creighton to consider, but I don't see them beating out enough of that list above.

That's not a good outlook for LSU. We may indeed need a really deep run, and some help from other teams.
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 5:46 pm
Posted by Metaloctopus
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:50 pm to
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The more I look at it, the more I don't like LSU's chances of hosting.

They have the 11 teams I listed.

Then Oregon St, Miami, NC State are likely to host. That takes it to 14.

So, for the final 2 spots you have:

UCSB - all depends what the committee wants to do with them.

aTm - if they have a better run than LSU in the SECT, have to believe they aren't ahead of us.

Baylor/WVU - both of these compare to LSU in some categories. One, or both can make a deep tourney run and make a case for themselves over LSU.

Then you have Indiana/Illinois, if the committee wants to give the Big 10 a host. Neither resume will top LSU though.

Then there is also Creighton to consider, but I don't see them beating out enough of that list above.

That's not a good outlook for LSU. We may indeed need a really deep run, and some help from other teams.




I tried to make this point to you the other day. LSU would do well to take care if business, and win at least two, preferably three games. There are lots of things that can happen in these tournaments to change everything, and the committee is as much about optics, and politics, as they are about metrics.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 5:56 pm to
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I tried to make this point to you the other day


I keep going back and forth, seeing things differently every time I look, especially when you compare it to the rest.

Maybe Miami or NC State play themselves out, not giving both a host.

WVU/Baylor would probably both have to play themselves in during the tournament.

That would free up a spot. I just changed my mind in 5 minutes.

Oh well, this is my favorite time of year for this reason. I just wish we were crunching numbers for a national seed.
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 6:09 pm to
As long as we beat SC we will 100% be ahead of WVU/Baylor
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 6:11 pm to
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As long as we beat SC we will 100% be ahead of WVU/Baylor


Yeah, I think we are ahead of both currently. That's why I said I think both have to play their way into a host spot in the tournament. If one of them advances far, they can make a strong case.
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 6:14 pm to
Let’s win the SEC tournament and it won’t be a question
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 6:19 pm to
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Let’s win the SEC tournament and it won’t be a question


That's would be great, but realistically speaking, we would need a ton of bounces to go our way, along with some solid innings from people we haven't gotten solid innings from all season. If we are still in this tournament by Friday I will be thrilled.
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 6:35 pm to
Why couldn’t we do it? Henry, Walker, and Marceaux are more than capable of each shutting down the other team in their games.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 6:45 pm to
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Why couldn’t we do it? Henry, Walker, and Marceaux are more than capable of each shutting down the other team in their games.


I mean, I'm not saying it's impossible, but you are going to need some innings out of some people you don't fully trust to do it.

Let's play the hypothetical.

Tonight - Henry gives you 3. Hilliard gives you 3. Peterson 2. Fontenot 1.

Wednesday - Walker gives you 6. Hess gives you 3.

Thursday - Marceaux gives you 6. Peterson 2. Fontenot 1.

At this point, you damn sure better still be undefeated and have Friday off. Throwing Peterson, Fontenot, Hess isn't ideal on Friday. Even undefeated, you don't have your normal starters going in the next game.
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 6:53 pm to
I mean Beck will definitely be somewhere in there and George, Threadgill, Ripoll will have to give you an inning or 2 each. But all I said is we could make it to Friday, not win Friday
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 6:57 pm to
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I mean Beck will definitely be somewhere in there and George, Threadgill, Ripoll will have to give you an inning or 2 each. But all I said is we could make it to Friday, not win Friday


None of those guys, outside of Beck, has been consistently dependable all season. But yeah, Friday is what I'll be thrilled with. When I responded I was responding to your "why can't we win it all." Or at least that's what I thought I was responding to.

And I mean, by that point, other teams will be reaching the bottom of their pitching barrels also maybe. Anything can happen for sure.

Let's just win tonight to at least guarantee ourselves two more first.
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 7:06 pm to
It’s the same argument which I think has a lot of merit that comes up every year in Omaha. If you truly want to crown a CWS “champion” that is the best team in baseball, give a week of rest detween the semis and the finals because pitching depth in the current format is by far the most valuable attribute to have but you can have a really great baseball team that doesn’t have an insane amount of depth at pitcher
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 5/21/19 at 7:35 pm to
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I just wish we were crunching numbers for a national seed.




So do I.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 6:11 am to
Updated scores. At some point today I'm going to try to update the RPI's, SOS, and quad wins, because some of changed since the original post.
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 8:05 am to
Auburn got a win, so that can only help our RPI
Posted by ElOsoBlanco7
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Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 8:08 am to
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Auburn got a win, so that can only help our RPI


Bumped us up 1 spot to #20.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 8:35 am to
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Why couldn’t we do it? Henry, Walker, and Marceaux are more than capable of each shutting down the other team in their games.



True...but theyre also capable of looking like hot garbage.
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