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re: LSU OC vs LSU OC - Jimbo vs E - Avg Total Offense - E's Crushin' It
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:16 am to UpToPar
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:16 am to UpToPar
Imo JB will have as big or bigger year than any otf those guys you mentioned.
He’s got everything those players had.
He’s got everything those players had.
This post was edited on 2/28/19 at 9:17 am
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:18 am to Rickdaddy4188
No don’t you see, that loss was Aranda’s fault. “O and E” clearly would have won that game if Aranda was a decent coach.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:18 am to p&g
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Imo JB will have as big or bigger year than any otf those guys you mentioned.
Now that's a bold prediction. I hope you're right on this one.
Eta: typo
This post was edited on 2/28/19 at 9:19 am
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:18 am to p&g
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Imo JB will have as big or bigger year than any otf those guys you mentioned.
He’s got everything those players had.
Besides a good OC.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:19 am to TigerLunatik
I actually expect that to happen ... do you not agree?
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:20 am to UpToPar
Ok, if you say so.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:21 am to nola000
Still waiting on comparison of Steve E's Offense to others
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:22 am to Damone
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Right. And Jimbo is 16 and 10 in his last 2 seasons.
O is 19-7, what's your point? Will O be lucky to not lose 3 (or more) in 2019?
Edit - Jimbo is 14 and 10 in his last 2 seasons. And my point is that Jimbo is not the world-beater that the Negs make him out to be. He had a few good seasons at LSU and FL St. But he is just an average HC otherwise. A 4-loss HC otherwise.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:22 am to p&g
I'm not sure he's gonna have quite those numbers, but I do expect a good season. As you said, he's got everything in place. I'm just not ready to say that this offense is gonna set records.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:22 am to p&g
Burrow would need to nearly double his TD total from last year to come close to Russel in 2006 or Mauck in 2003.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:23 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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The vast majority of LSU fans saw the dramatic improvement at the end of 2018. And the vast majority of LSU fans understand that LSU played one of the toughest schedules in college football in 2018.
I was happy to see us kick arse at the end of the year but the pass defenses they faced weren’t exactly elite/stiff competition
Arkansas-87
Rice-124
A&M-98
I hope they can continue to improve. We will need them too for the 2019 season
Running game should be better for sure next year.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:25 am to p&g
Russel in 2006 posted the following stat line:
67.8% cmp. %
3129 yards
28TDs-8INTs
Burrow's 2018 stats:
57.8% cmp. %
2894 yards
16TDs-5INTs
He might throw for more yards, but I seriously doubt he comes close to the TD total or completion percentage. If Burrow posts Russel's 2006 stat line LSU wins the NC.
I guess the question is, is Burrow the limiting factor here or is Ensminger? I'd like to get Buckeye Jeaux's take on this.
67.8% cmp. %
3129 yards
28TDs-8INTs
Burrow's 2018 stats:
57.8% cmp. %
2894 yards
16TDs-5INTs
He might throw for more yards, but I seriously doubt he comes close to the TD total or completion percentage. If Burrow posts Russel's 2006 stat line LSU wins the NC.
I guess the question is, is Burrow the limiting factor here or is Ensminger? I'd like to get Buckeye Jeaux's take on this.
This post was edited on 2/28/19 at 9:29 am
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:25 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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Jimbo is 14 and 10 in his last 2 seasons. And my point is that Jimbo is not the world-beat
And beat your deity in year 1.
quote:
He had a few good seasons at LSU and FL St. But he is just an average HC otherwise. A 4-loss HC otherwise.
You realize ed orgeron's greatest season ever is 3 losses right?
This year was only his second year ever with a winning record.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:28 am to UpToPar
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but I seriously doubt he comes close to the TD total or completion percentage.
TD total isn't really that much of a reach. Completion pctg, that's going to be more difficult.
The Auburn loss in 2006 was what cost Jimbo some goodwill at LSU.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:31 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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I'm comparing the "Holy Grail" of ball coaches, Jimbo Fisher, to the reality of what he actually did as OC at LSU.
Holy grail lol
Ok, why are you comparing numbers from 15-20 years ago?
Has nothing to do with today and F'n retarded to do so, unless you're trying to drive a particular narrative.
Doesn't matter if you're Pro SE or anti SE, this is dumb
If you're going to compare, do the numbers of E and fisher from 2016-2018.
points per play?
Yards per game?
Red zone efficiency?
3rd Down %?
While you're looking up those numbers, compare against miles/Cameron 13,14,15
Love to know how that compares.
This post was edited on 2/28/19 at 9:41 am
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:33 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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And my point is that Jimbo is not the world-beater that the Negs make him out to be. He had a few good seasons at LSU and FL St. But he is just an average HC otherwise.
If Jimbo, a championship winning OC and head coach, is just average, then what is O?
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:34 am to RogerTheShrubber
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TD total isn't really that much of a reach.
He’s 12 off. That’s a TD per game difference. It would be a huge jump.
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Completion pctg, that's going to be more difficult.
And is, IMO, more important. Completing passes keeps your offense on the field and in rhythm.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:35 am to bstew3006
It's a troll. This guy has it in his brain that the "haters" love and continually bring up Fisher when the only person bring up Fisher is Jeaux. It's an unfair comparison. Fisher is one of the best offensive minds in college football for the last 20 years. Ensminger has been coaching TEs and from what I've heard on the radio his input wasn't valued when Miles was here.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:36 am to UpToPar
Means nothing.... or better yet isn’t critical.
If he has same number of yards, completion percentage and keeps ints at a minimum offense will be just as productive.
A guy can toss it for 300 a game and avg 1 td.
Likewise another can avg 180 and 2 tds passes per game
What’s the diff?
There isn’t one.
Offense success is measured in multiple ways but at end of the day it’s Tds scored... that’s really only thing that matters.
If he has same number of yards, completion percentage and keeps ints at a minimum offense will be just as productive.
A guy can toss it for 300 a game and avg 1 td.
Likewise another can avg 180 and 2 tds passes per game
What’s the diff?
There isn’t one.
Offense success is measured in multiple ways but at end of the day it’s Tds scored... that’s really only thing that matters.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:40 am to TigerLunatik
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This guy has it in his brain that the "haters" love and continually bring up Fisher
One sentence later...
quote:
Fisher is one of the best offensive minds in college football for the last 20 years.
ROFL - literally
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