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re: LSU in 2016 Draft
Posted on 1/18/16 at 10:35 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 1/18/16 at 10:35 pm to Lester Earl
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know Gordon has excelled as a blocker, to the point of when he got hurt, LF's production too a huge hit. He's a tackle at the next level anyway, not a TE.
Unless you've seen him actually play tackle, how can you say this? He would have to go to the Combine and really impress a team to secure a draft pick at a position he hasn't played.
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Jeter has shown he is a really good athlete when he has been thrown too. Soft hands, fluid runner. He's 6'6" 250, red zone night mare if developed by the right team.
That's just the thing. Teams aren't going to draft a player at TE that they have to develop unless they have unbelievable measurables (i.e Jimmy Graham, Antonio Gates, etc).
Look, I love our guys and hope the best for them but to think it is a "conservative" view that these two are drafted is a definitely a homer point of view.
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Posted on 1/18/16 at 10:36 pm to Lsuchs
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It kind of does matter. You are saying two players at a position that lsu rarely sends to the league will both be drafted? Not make a team, get drafted... They don't even stand out among our recent tight ends
It doesnt matter one bit. It will matter if the NFL thinks they are good enough or not. What does Dillon Gordon being a mauling run blocker have to do with Richard Dickson, who was 6'2" 240 and ran a 5.00 40yd dash? absolutely nothing. Dont be so near sighted.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 10:47 pm to FlyingTiger06
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Look, I love our guys and hope the best for them but to think it is a "conservative" view that these two are drafted is a definitely a homer point of view.
im anything but a homer. But i can see athleticism when presented in front of me. Im talking late round picks. These guys fit the bill of the type of guys that teams take a shot on later in the draft. Posted on 1/18/16 at 10:52 pm to Lester Earl
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. What does Dillon Gordon being a mauling run blocker have to do with Richard Dickson, who was 6'2" 240 and ran a 5.00 40yd dash? absolutely nothing
They both played TE at LSU, and probably both won't be NFL draft picks...
How many NFL teams feature a blocking TE. We have had plenty of starting tackles that didn't get drafted, yet you think it's safe to bet our blocking TE will get drafted at tackle?
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im anything but a homer
You are saying it's a safe bet two guys 99% of non lsu fans couldn't name will be drafted, at a position lsu hasn't had a player drafted in a decade... Bc one looks good when he made a catch, and it's your opinion fournettes production tailed off (while I agree numbers don't show this) when another got hurt. Oh and that second one will be drafted at a different position
What's a homer then?
This post was edited on 1/18/16 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 1/18/16 at 10:55 pm to Lsuchs
I don't know why people think losing Gordon was the lost cog in the machine. We lost him a lot earlier in the year than most remember. I think he was clipped after Miss St. or Auburn and only returned for the one play where we lost him for the season.
JD Moore was a huge loss, but Jeter played most of the year.
JD Moore was a huge loss, but Jeter played most of the year.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:03 pm to Lsuchs
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Gordon was injured early against auburn, the second game of the season.
You know what fournette had against MSU? <160.
You know what he averaged on the season? >160
And his 200 yd games were without Gordon (I know he played some against auburn)
LF averaged 4.9 YPC in SEC play once we lost Gordon.
Good but not great. Let's not let 250 yard games vs shitty teams cloud what actually happen.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:08 pm to Lester Earl
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Let's not let 250 yard games vs shitty teams cloud what actually happen.
So let's let a 150 yd game against a mediocre team cloud what actually happened?
He put up more against a better UF team, can't use a single game.
I already said I agree Gordon would have helped. You literally said "a huge drop off in production" trying to prove your point. That is false
This post was edited on 1/18/16 at 11:19 pm
Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:11 pm to Lsuchs
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He had a 150 yd game against a mediocre team with Gordon healthy...
in a game where we passed for 70 yards.
ok man quote:
You literally said "a huge drop off in production" trying to prove your point. That is literally false
read again, cause i "literally" didnt say that. I said his production took a huge hit
look specifically at our 3 game losing streak.
This post was edited on 1/18/16 at 11:12 pm
Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:12 pm to Lester Earl
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in a game where we passed for 70 yards. ok man
Great point man, what did we throw for against auburn?
Oh yeah 74 yards....
Dillon was hurt most of that game. Fournette and guice ran at will
This post was edited on 1/18/16 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:16 pm to Lester Earl
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These guys fit the bill of the type of guys that teams take a shot on later in the draft.
STOP YOUR HOMERISM THEY DONT HAVE THE TAPE
Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:22 pm to Lsuchs
The probability of Jeter and Gordon being drafted is much higher than the probability of them not being drafted. Regardless of LSU's historical TE draft prospects.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:28 pm to Sampson
Fair enough, I just believe it to be the other way around.
If we have a great season the extra exposure could help them I guess.
If we have a great season the extra exposure could help them I guess.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:29 pm to Sampson
i mean Keith zinger was once drafted. Half of this board doesnt even know who that is
Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:43 pm to Lester Earl
If the zinger can do it, so can Jeter. And Gordon will be a steal of a future tackle. I stand by my list. Posted on 1/18/16 at 11:51 pm to Sampson
While we disagree on some of the probabilities, I like your list and I'd love to see it happen.
Going to hurt to lose that many guys at once though. Reminded me how important this upcoming year is.
Going to hurt to lose that many guys at once though. Reminded me how important this upcoming year is.
This post was edited on 1/18/16 at 11:53 pm
Posted on 1/19/16 at 12:44 am to Lester Earl
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Keith zinger
Wow that's a name I haven't seen in a while
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:17 am to Lester Earl
Losing
We are gonna fricking suck in 2017. Better hope this #1 recruiting class is legit.
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Trey White
Kendall Beckwith
Dural
Pocic
Lewis Neal
Christian Lac
Rickey Jefferson
Dwayne Thomas
Colin Jeter
Josh Boutte
Tashawn Bower
Duke Riley
Dillon Gordon
LF7
Malachi
Jamal Adams
Godchaux
We are gonna fricking suck in 2017. Better hope this #1 recruiting class is legit.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:51 am to Lester Earl
They don't run 3 TE sets on 1st down at your own 20 in the league.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:55 am to madddoggydawg
nope, but every NFL team plays with 2 tackles
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:58 am to Lester Earl
Gordon is going to be an OT in the NFL. And be a good one, barring injury.
I'll ban bet on it.
I'll ban bet on it.
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