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Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:00 pm to TBass82
Look it up. You can't use TOPS scholarships for football. It is an NCAA rule. I've represented several universities and appeared in front of the NCAA, so I know the rules backwards and forwards. By the way, I am attorney, although that might not mean much to some of you.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:01 pm to baybeefeetz
Yes they have one on the team now his name is Seth Fruge.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:02 pm to WacoTiger
Means a lot to me, although I have run across several lawyers who are chronically wrong as frick and surer that they're right.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:05 pm to Bubba Hotep
Yes, you can recieve Tops and other scholarship aid,as long as it(the scholarship) does not come from LSU.
This post was edited on 8/24/11 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:07 pm to imamamatiger
You are wrong. The rule applies in the FBS division. The rule is different in the FCS division for smaller colleges.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:07 pm to baybeefeetz
quote:
Not kickers, real players.
Um, Josh Jasper is probably one of the most popular players of the last decade
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:09 pm to WacoTiger
Further clarification, once you are on a football scholarship and count towards the 85 player limit, you may get other financial aid, including TOPS money, but you don't "save" the football team a scholarship because of the TOPS scholarship. Also in the FBS, there are no partial scholarships.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:09 pm to Bubba Hotep
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You have no idea what you are talking about.
Actually he is 100% correct
TOPS Is a Louisiana thing, not in every state.
Other states have similar, but some states have nothing.
NCAA says if you get any kind of aid it counts toward your 85 otherwise you would have LSU with 105 scholarship players every year and no walk ons.
We would sign the max, and not include an instate qualifier in that count and just call him a walk on. so every year we would sign or max, then have 7 more "walk ons" who are 3 or 4 star guys because they happen to qualify for tops.
The scholarship amount isn't really any different so we would absolutely work that unfairly
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:14 pm to KBeezy
Thank you for the back up support. I am very familiar with TOPS because it has created an unfair advantage for LSU and now other SEC schools that have a similar program in baseball. Texas teams, especially Baylor, have been screaming about the unfairness of this rule in baseball. I think it is great for Louisiana and LSU baseball.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:20 pm to The Truth 34
quote:Started as a walk on then ended up on scholly didnt he?
daniel graff
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:23 pm to baybeefeetz
ryan oneal certianly made most of his opp.
Sat by him couple games after he graduated in student section.. told me saban hated him.
Sat by him couple games after he graduated in student section.. told me saban hated him.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:57 pm to WacoTiger
No, you are wrong. That rule refers to recruited football players. If you are just a regular student that walks on, you can have any kind of aid you want.
Even for recruited players, they can have tops, but count against the 85 only when they play in a game.
Even for recruited players, they can have tops, but count against the 85 only when they play in a game.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 10:01 pm to WacoTiger
Actually dude I'm pretty sure you are wrong. I was on the LSU football team for 4 years in the early 2000s as a walk-on. I had a full academic scholarship the entire time I was at LSU and never counted against the 85, so unless the rule has changed VERY recently, you have no idea what you are talking about.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 10:30 pm to RainMan
He doesn't.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 10:34 pm to baybeefeetz
Gino Giambelluca
Posted on 8/24/11 at 10:38 pm to baybeefeetz
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Anyway, in recent years, has any walk-on made any real contribution on the field? Not kickers, real players.
Matt Mauck
Posted on 8/25/11 at 7:55 am to TigerintheNO
Well, if we're throwing out baseball players, Josh Booty.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 8:02 am to baybeefeetz
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This was years ago. I got to go to a few games as a recruit before Sam Nader told me that they wouldn't offer, but that I could walk on using TOPSnand whatever academic scholarships I had. Cool story, I know. I went elsewhere.
How long ago? I may know you.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 3:40 pm to Bubba Hotep
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LSU didn't offer me a football scholarship.
No, you are wrong. That rule refers to recruited football players. If you are just a regular student that walks on, you can have any kind of aid you want.
Even for recruited players, they can have tops, but count against the 85 only when they play in a game.
This was my understanding, walk ons and non recruited players etc. whether they are on academic scholarship or not can't practice and report the same time as the scholarship players. so there is a dis-advantage of being a walk on
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