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re: LSU Defensive Points Per Drive Update in Perspective
Posted on 11/29/19 at 2:15 am to SweatEquity
Posted on 11/29/19 at 2:15 am to SweatEquity
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You can look at the points per drive here
If you accept this data, LSU is still ranked 4th in Net Points per Drive. But what is not in this data is the elephant in the livingroom - strength of schedule. When you consider the differences in schedules between LSU and the three teams ranked above (OSU, Bama, Clemson), LSU is even more impressive. What we need are rankings adjusted for opponent's rankings.
But don't put too much stock into these rankings. In this list, USL is ranked above Georgia. Which brings to mind Mark Twain...
This post was edited on 11/29/19 at 2:51 am
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Posted on 11/29/19 at 3:32 am to Terrific Tales
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The 2019 LSU defense is about .04 points per drive worse than an average LSU defense, which is not great, but it’s definitely not all time bad.
I agree with that perspective and I believe that .04 difference is probably due to the fact that when defensive players have a 30 point lead, as opposed to a 3 point lead, those defensive players generally don't play quite as hard. As they tend to slack off somewhat. It's human nature.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 3:38 am to KingDaddyRabbit
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I agree with that perspective and I believe that .04 difference is probably due to the fact that when defensive players have a 30 point lead, as opposed to a 3 point lead, those defensive players generally don't play quite as hard. As they tend to slack off somewhat. It's human nature.
I think teams will also change their usual offensive approach when playing a team that they know will score almost at will
We'll get more teams taking risks that they usually wouldn't take
Posted on 11/29/19 at 3:40 am to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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how stupid the committee is because you can't judge a team based on the "eye test."
The so-called "eye test" is a scam employed by the bullshite playoff committee as a smokescreen to steal the number one seed spot away from LSU in order to screw over the SEC.
For instance, when Minnesota played Penn State, Minnesota led the entire game. As they beat Penn State about as thoroughly as you can beat a team. Yet, the bullshite playoff committee used their so-called "eye test" scam to rank Penn State number 8, as opposed to logically ranking them behind Minnesota as normal, cause they wanted to pad Ohio State's resume so the bullshite playoff committee could steal the number one seed spot away from LSU and screw over the SEC at the same time.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 3:49 am to Terrific Tales
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To be honest I have no idea why we can’t do it for a full game.
Well, that's exactly what Ed O has been working on. The defense did improve overall for the most part in the Arkansas game, but it did sort of collapse somewhat in the fourth quarter.
Hopefully, the defense will play a full 60 minute game in the A&M and UGA games, heading into the playoffs. Now is the time to get right before the playoffs begin.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 3:54 am to LSU1593
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I would like to see this stat on all drives this season that LSU is not up by 21+
Well, in tight games, the LSU defense is going to play much harder than if the lead is in excess of 21 points. It's human nature, but you're right, that probably accounts for some of it too.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 4:04 am to J2thaROC
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Which is why it’s a quality depth issue. We just can’t rotate players enough to keep them going for a full 4 quarters.
It's not a depth issue. In fact, this is the best defensive depth LSU has had in many years. As we constantly rotate our defensive linemen and our linebackers in and out throughout the game. Now we don't rotate as much in the defensive backfield, but we are thinner back there. Not to mention that rotating players in and out of the defensive backfield is also not critical.
The problem doesn't have anything to do with depth or with keeping fresh players in the game. The problem instead is keeping the defensive players focused for the full 60 minutes of the game.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 4:12 am to J2thaROC
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They can’t. We can get 3 good quarters out of them if they are pumped (look at the Bama game). That’s the max they can go before getting exhausted. This is where depth becomes so important. If we had quality depth at several positions, we could rotate and keep everyone fresh for an entire game. It’s just not there this year.
Ed O reports the exact opposite of what you are claiming. As he says our defensive linemen have remained fresh up until the end of the games. As LSU constantly rotates all of the defensive linemen and linebackers throughout the game. Depth had not been a problem at all. In fact, LSU currently has the best depth situation it has had for many years and especially on the defensive line.
The problem has been with the players maintaining full focus for the full sixty minutes of the game. That's what the problem has been.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 7:03 am to LSU1593
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I would like to see this stat on all drives this season that LSU is not up by 21+
The site says they do not calculate garbage time stats but I did not see a definition of how they determine garbage time. Also only fbs vs fbs games so Ohio state playing an extra sacrificial FBS program vs LSU playing an FCS program helps them
Also of note, LSU is somewhere in the 80s in DLD which is points on drives that start inside the opponents own 20.
But LSU’s net points scored differential (NPD) ranks them 4th. Basically they outscore their opponents by by more than all but 3 teams. Ohio State, Alabama, and Clemson. We beat one of those. Depending on your definition of garbage time, we could say the non garbage time differential was 12 points.
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:19 am to mdomingue
Yea early in the year our net was #1 by a large margin. It’s definitely filled but I also think we have played a much tougher schedule than the teams in front of us
Posted on 12/1/19 at 1:29 am to Terrific Tales
Well there’s the complete game by the defense.
Let’s carry that forward into the champ game and then the playoffs!
Let’s carry that forward into the champ game and then the playoffs!
This post was edited on 12/1/19 at 1:30 am
Posted on 12/9/19 at 8:20 am to Terrific Tales
Back to back complete games...
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