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re: LSU Defensive Issues: Blame it on Patrick Surtain Jr.'s Recruitment

Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:42 pm to
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:42 pm to
Posted by husslemane
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:42 pm to
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Todd Harris and Eric Monroe are both juniors, so one would expect their play to be better than it has been.


Haven't they both been hurt? I know Harris is out for the year, and I think Monroe was banged up earlier too.
Posted by mikecno
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:43 pm to
You make some good points. I always contend that, not just that Surtain chose Bama, but the way he handled his business significantly hurt the Tigers 2018 class. But things will work out...just need some time for these younger players to develop.
Posted by boudinman
Member since Nov 2019
6101 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:43 pm to
Watching safeties get schooled by a running Qb, that can't throw worth a damn. Out of position, poor tackling, and not staying in their gaps. Players are taught to wrap up on tackles in Jr High, and high school. A college coach shouldn't have to teach a player to wrap up. It would be like having a QB coach teaching a QB how to hold and throw the damn ball.
Posted by brewdrees
Member since Aug 2018
5437 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:44 pm to
Lmaooooo

Bruh the secondary isn't the problem.

Have u been watching this year???
Posted by Jack Daniel
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:49 pm to
He is a very strange case. I don’t understand how the #1 rated player in his position can not sniff the field in 4 years with thin depth
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
5022 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:51 pm to
Safeties we have signed since 2016:
Eric Monroe - Can't seem to get on the field
Cam Lewis - Plays some
Jacoby Stevens
Grant Delpit
Todd Harris - Injured
Kelvin Joseph - Transferred
Maurice Hampton - Injured to start the year and hasn't yet seen the field

It's just been a combination of misses, injuries and transfer. Similar to Bama's front 7 issues.
Posted by The Mick
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:53 pm to
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boudinman
bama alter
Posted by Groundscrew85
Member since Oct 2018
685 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:54 pm to
We would have still gotten Stingley. Since when is there only one CB on the field?
Posted by tigerbaiter1033
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:54 pm to
Has to be an alter right? How do people come up with some of the takes that are posted on this website. It's truly astounding.
Posted by Fightin Okra
Member since Nov 2016
6061 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:54 pm to
Your posts gives no link to Surtain’s recruitment and the DL as your subject line suggests
Posted by hophead
Member since Nov 2007
2030 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:55 pm to
I think it is due to lack of discipline. Not sure the correct terminology, but I call it "gap discipline". Each player has an assignment on each play. They need to trust the system and stick to their assignment. To me, it looks like the rest of us as young boys on the playground all just trying to make a play and be the hero.

If I'm correct, it can be fixed. So hope I'm correct. :)
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:55 pm to
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Surtain is horrible!! We threw all over him! Most overated ive ever seen.



He's actually awesome and we didn't throw on him much at all.

We don't have to act like children when other teams have good players.

Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:57 pm to
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He is a very strange case. I don’t understand how the #1 rated player in his position can not sniff the field in 4 years with thin depth



It has to be injuries that he never returned to form from.

But in other cases it has happened, even at LSU. Chris Davenport was a 5* and #5 at his position. shite just happens sometimes.

ETA:

Monroe was #3 at his position on 247 composite FWIW. Always thought of him as a 4* guy.
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 12:58 pm
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

Todd Harris and Eric Monroe are both juniors, so one would expect their play to be better than it has been

Well Todd Harris has been injured since September, so his play is exactly what I'd expect.
Posted by Pahnew
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

Todd Harris and Eric Monroe are both juniors, so one would expect their play to be better than it has been.


DAFUQ
Posted by LosTigres251
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Member since Mar 2018
1611 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:23 pm to
Monroe has all the skills in the world but no instincts. Its tough to teach instincts. LSU cant risk him being lost most of the game. Hes had his chances to show up but continues to play timid in passing situations. And when he is aggressive, hes even more of a liability. Hes difficult to watch.

Todd Harris is an absolute stud. Has great instincts and just understands what LSU is doing defensively.
His play has not been matched by anyone...Yet.
He is sorely missed.

Kenan Jones left the program.

Losing Surtain opened a spot for Burrow, so good riddance.
Kelvin Joseph couldve been the guy, but hes a total screwup and with an attitude. Good riddance as well.
"you cant worry about the ones that got away " Guess who?

The Tiger D has NFL players all over it. I remain cautiously optimistic. Arky, the week after giving up 600 yards, is the right SEC opponent. This schedule has worked out unbelievably, since LSU got past Texas. And if the Tigers get The PAc12 winner in the first round........ Pinch yourselves.
I still cant believe LSu got that call with Moss on the sideline in gumpville. It seems to be a magical year, hell someone even said they have excellent QB play this year at LSU. Like the Heisman favorite. Stahp...
Wake me up on my dad's bday, January 13th. I may have to watch that one.

That may be the first game that you and I have watched this year, boudin

Geaux Tigers

This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 2:09 pm
Posted by HC87
Coastal NC
Member since Dec 2014
5506 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:32 pm to
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Kelvin Joseph transferring hurt us bad.


THIS! Imagine the PT this guy would have gotten this season as the 5th DB whether it be at CB and/or S? Next season he would be a full-time starter and big-time contributor. One of the worse 'departures' I can remember in recent years.
Posted by broadcaster
Maurepas
Member since Sep 2013
2718 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:33 pm to
One player does not make that much difference. Our compliance office has more to do with the depth than one player
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 1:35 pm
Posted by ATLTiger
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Member since Sep 2003
46193 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:48 pm to
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Kenan Jones left the program?



yeah I feel like I missed this
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