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re: LSU BBall is stacked, SEC...in trouble.

Posted on 4/18/13 at 8:25 am to
Posted by tadelatt
Buga Nation
Member since Jan 2010
12398 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 8:25 am to
2000??

Don't you mean 2006?
Posted by Walter White
Judice Inn Booth 1
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 9:22 am to
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Does one current player have to leave? If so who would be most likely?


I heard it's Jalen Courtney
Posted by FightinTigers13
Benton
Member since Oct 2009
165 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 9:33 am to
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I heard it's Jalen Courtney


I would be ok with that, but it does suck for him or whoever has to leave
Posted by MetryTyger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 10:18 am to
Jones will have some interesting line-up possibilities......

C J.Odo
F J.O'Bryant
F J.Martin
G. A.Hickey
G. A.Stringer

C D.Malone
F S.Coleman
F S.Hammink
G M.Morgan
G T.Quarterman

F J.Mickey
F J.Courtney
F B.Bridgwater
G C.Collins
G M.Williams


Our cup may runneth over.....
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
18823 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 10:20 am to
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we have a lot of really talented players but also a lot of "tweeners" - Stringer, Martin, Bridge, Mickey, etc.


calling the bolded players tweeners is ridiculous, these guys are straight up ballers that will be contributing from square one, hell martin will be starting first game
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 10:20 am to
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MetryTyger


Severely unestimating J Mickey.

He will immediately be ahead of Coleman, Malone, and Hammink at forward. I could see him starting at the 3 spot to be honest.
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 10:21 am to
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SEC...in trouble.
With KY's incoming class I don't think they're scared.
Posted by Trent
Member since Jan 2008
2151 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 10:38 am to
I'm not sure about the comparisons between Bridge and Coleman. Coleman has a much better shot and can play 3 and 4. Bridge is a 4 or a 5 but he's not big enough for college. The laughable comparison is the ones that I've seen comparing him to Tasmin. With the exception that they were both great big men in high school, they are nothing alike. Taz is was and is waaaaaaaay more versatile. I'm happy we got him, but I don't see him as making much of a contribution, at least early on. He'll have to learn a new position.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40143 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 10:48 am to
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I guess coaches are useless on the college level if your not good straight out of high school!


Broski makes a good point about Bridgewater. He was an early bloomer who shot up to 6'5" (his current height) in like 8th grade, and he's been playing the post since then. He's basically just been beating up on smaller players through his high school career (spent mostly at Episcopal-BR). I would love to see him develop a more well-rounded offensive game, but he is nowhere near as polished out of high school as most of the guys we have coming in.
Posted by rzd30
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2008
1108 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 10:54 am to
It will be very interesting to see where these guy play and who they guard, it does not really matter numbers wise other than for running lanes and who the PG is, it is more about match ups and who is guarding who. That is why when people classify guys strictly as PG-C that is flawed.
Hammink 6-7 (210)
O'Bryant 6-9 (260)
Coleman 6-5 (190)
Mickey 6-7 (210)
Bridgewater 6-6 (230)
Malone 7-0 (220)
Martin 6-9 (220)
Quarterman 6-5 (180)
You pretty much know Odo is guarding the other teams biggest guy and Stringer/ Hickey guard the smallest. The press will be killer especially if CJJ mixes it up with some Diamond and even a contain press, mix it up in the half court and run some 2-3.

Believe while some people dog Collins, I hope he can become the lockdown defender a really good contending team needs he has the physical tools and can guard two positions. Other aspect of Stringers game that is really overlooked is his defense.
I will take our returning players over KY's.

Having "tweeners" is a great thing it allows for multiple matchup problems and could allow for Martin to be guarded by a 6-5 SF, who you got in that matchup?
Posted by TigerFan2211
Texas
Member since Jan 2012
880 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 12:25 pm to
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Broski makes a good point about Bridgewater



No shite, my point is the guy can develop more of a mid range jumper and coaches can work with him on his inside game. We all know he won't start but the dude still is a pretty good basketball player that can provide good quality depth. Just b/c he is small doesn't mean anything. He will be better than Coleman IMO. He is bigger/stronger on the inside. Coleman got his shite swatted inside on multiple occasions b/c hes just too small and not strong enough to push a defender back and his shooting is terrible as well and the dude still lead the team for awhile in scoring!
Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
14606 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 12:53 pm to
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From someone that has seen Bridgewater in person multiple times, I don't think he will be that good at the college level. The basis for his game in high school was that he "out-athleted" the smaller players he was up again. He doesn't have a good mid range jumper, nor does he really have any post moves.



You see him this year? He could out-athlete just about everyone at Episcopal, but that's not the case at Scotlandville.
Posted by PatrickAlexander1
Sweden
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 1:17 pm to
You don't have to be an NBA talent to succeed at the college level. The "Tweener" has a valuable role on college teams where short, beefy dudes can play post. Power > Skill on the college level in the post. Bridge is jacked and if he works hard to develop he will be a valuable piece for this LSU basketball team considering most SEC teams have little post presence.
Posted by rzd30
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2008
1108 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 1:34 pm to
That is a good point I could definately see Bridgewater holding his own against a guy with say Devonta Pollards size and build.
Posted by FightinTigers13
Benton
Member since Oct 2009
165 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 2:09 pm to
I personally think this will be the lineup barring any injuries:

Starters
PG: Hickey
SG Stringer
SF: Martin
PF: O'Bryant
C: Odo

2nd team
PG: Quarterman
SG: Morgan
SF: Coleman
PF: Mickey
C: Malone

Then the fill ins
PG/SG: Collins
SG/SF/PF: Hammink (I believe he will improve a lot to play any of the 3 positions)
SF/PF: Bridgewater

I believe that after a few minutes, CJJ will move JOB3 to center to either get Mickey or Coleman in at SF and move Martin to PF. After that, I have no idea. Too many options ...which is a great thing to have
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43586 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 2:16 pm to
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Starters
PG: Hickey
SG Stringer
SF: Martin
PF: O'Bryant
C: Odo

2nd team
PG: Quarterman
SG: Morgan
SF: Coleman
PF: Mickey
C: Malone

Then the fill ins
PG/SG: Collins
SG/SF/PF: Hammink (I believe he will improve a lot to play any of the 3 positions)
SF/PF: Bridgewater

I believe that after a few minutes, CJJ will move JOB3 to center to either get Mickey or Coleman in at SF and move Martin to PF. After that, I have no idea. Too many options ...which is a great thing to have


I agree with this. I think Mickey could play at the 3 spot also.
Posted by TigerFan2211
Texas
Member since Jan 2012
880 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 2:17 pm to
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You don't have to be an NBA talent to succeed at the college level. The "Tweener" has a valuable role on college teams where short, beefy dudes can play post. Power > Skill on the college level in the post. Bridge is jacked and if he works hard to develop he will be a valuable piece for this LSU basketball team considering most SEC teams have little post presence.








I agree 100%
Posted by FightinTigers13
Benton
Member since Oct 2009
165 posts
Posted on 4/18/13 at 2:33 pm to
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I agree with this. I think Mickey could play at the 3 spot also.


I don't see how anybody can say he can't play the 3. He is a versatile player IMO. He may not be a great shooter at the time but I think he is a pretty good shooter that just needs to practice shooting more
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 8:49 pm to
the young talent we had in 06 was very raw and unrefined (think CJ, magnum, even tyrus). martin hasn't been playing long but his skill set and game just seems natural. mickey is a stud. bridge and quarterman are players. these guys will be ready to play.
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