LSU Basketball Recruiting this Decade

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We have all seen what can be done and we need to give this staff all the positive support that was not always given to the prior staff, even if there are a few less than stellar years in the decade.

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Believe me, if this staff is as terrible as the last one, the TRUE fans will not give the support that they deserve.

LSU is the flagship school in Louisiana, if we can lock up the talents in state like football, we will have more stellar years than last decade.

Talents or not, you still need good coaching. You can see that the last coaching staff, especially the HC ,doesn't belong to SEC level or even Sun Belt level (as this year ASU season indicated), hence, they were rightfully gone.

As long as the current staff keeps winning, the TRUE fans (not including relatives or friends etc..) will continue to support the staff and the team. However, if this current one can only get 2 good years out of 11, they don't deserve our support.

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Any way, this thread is about recruiting and not coaching.

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Yes, it's about recruiting, but talents needs coaching to develop also.

Ex: LSU in 2006, after the FF season, returned Big Baby, Taz and GT, couldn't qualify for the NIT, losing record in the SEC. Why??? The talents were there, but not coaching.

The last coaching staff wasn't blamed on for not recruiting well. They were gone for not winning enough.

LSU doesn't expect a Final Four or Elite-8 every year but 2 good years out of 11 will not be tolerated, especially with J. Alleva as the A.D (comimg from the basketball school).

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tiger20

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let me begin by saying if you killed yourself, the world would be a better and more intelligent place.

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Many on this board have criticisized LSU basketball recruiting over he past decade.

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and rightfully so.

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Despite entering the decade under draconian NCAA sanctions the prior coaching staff
was somehow able to do what no other coaching staff in LSU history ever accomplished:
recruit three SEC champions in the same decade

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one of these days, you will stop giving john brady the credit for trent johnson and his staff turning the same 2007-2008 team that was 1-6 in the sec last year under brady into a now 13-2, SEC champion.

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In spite of these signature accomplishments the prior staff was routinely savaged by it's own

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nobody said signing the players from louisiana brady is supposed to sign wouldve made lsu the team of the decade. they would have made them a much better and more consistent team, and that is without question.

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Some foolishly pointed out any Louisiana prospect signing with another school while ignoring the

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and you are stupid enough to believe that everytime a louisiana player was not signed, its because lsu had no room, not that brady failed.

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In some cases the players were not highly regarded but blossomed in college, as did Tyrus Thomas. Danny Granger would be a prime example.

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a major part of a coaches job is to recognize talent and potential. i dont give a shite what danny granger was or wasn't rated coming out of high school. brady's JOB was recognize talent, especially talent within an hour and a half drive of the place he "worked" every single day.

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A few played on at large NCAA teams, but seldom advanced very deeply in the

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and this is why you are fricking stupid. you somehow attribute team success to every single player on that team, and team failure to every single player on that team.

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While Alex Farrar, Ben Voogd, Chris Johnson, Darnell Lazare, Jermaine Williams, Torris Bright,
Darrel Mitchell, Tyrus Thomas, and Brad Bridgewater celebrated conference titles, Sweet 16 and Final Four
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a good portion of the players you mentioned had nothing to do with their team's success. a few of them made the team worse when they got in the game. and someone like alex farrer LITERALLY had 0 impact on the team's season because he did not play in a single game. yet you want to credit him with winning a conference title and making a final 4 appearance. this is why you are fricking stupid, and the world would be a better place without you.

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the following Louisaina players signed elswhere and never even won a conference title:

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over half of the players you just listed are still playing in college this year. how in the hell have you already determined that they will never make a sweet 16, final 4, or win a conference title?

and you are actually insinuating that players like ben voogd, alex farrer, chris johnson, etc. are better and more valuable to their teams than greg monroe, dj augustin, lacedarius dunn, paul milsap, shan foster, etc.

that doesnt even deserve a comment.

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Rather than lament what we did not have we should all appreciate what was achieved under severe handicaps of NCAA sanctions

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lsu was under ncaa sanctions for 3 years while john brady was the coach. of the other 8, 1 was a season that deserved praise and appreciation. what should we be doing about the other 7 seasons of misery under john brady?

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and the moribund state of the program during the last half of the prior decade.

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the program had returned to that state after the last 2 years because of john brady. trent johnson brought it out of that state in less than a year.

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The trail has been blazed and the opportunnity exists for the new staff to develop the dominant program of the next decade.

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of course you would attempt to set the expectation for trent johnson to make lsu the dominant program of the next decade, when john brady never even came close to that. i have serious doubt john brady could even spell the word dominant, much less know what it means.

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We have all seen what can be done and we need to give this staff all the positive support that was not always given to the prior staff,

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this staff has positive support, because it has earned it up to this point. john brady did much more to earn the negativity he rightfully deserved, and it was rightfully given to him.

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even if there are a few less than stellar years in the decade.

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like the ones that comprised the majority of the decade plus that john brady was the head coach at lsu?

by the way, after losing in the first round of the conference tournament earlier this week, arkansas state's season has officially ended with a 10 game losing streak and the second worst record in the SUN BELT conference. when does he interview for the alabama and georgia jobs?

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draconian NCAA sanctions

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:OMG:

What a fricking tool!

Wait you must be Brady because nobody was ever as much a tool as that pathetic coach! How hard was it really to recruit the top talent in BR? Because all those good years came from that. Brady was NOT and WILL NEVER be a good coach. Get OVER IT! I really dont get what this year or the last SEC championship has to do with sanctions.

Successful NCAA teams(moreso in the Tourney) all have one thing in common; A point guard. That is something LSU hasnt had in a while.

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Brady was NOT and WILL NEVER be a good coach.

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I think this is a little strong. I think it was more a case of Brady not being the RIGHT coach for LSU. LSU didn't win the SEC titles or get to the Final Four on talent alone.
I think it important that Brady Bashers take note of a couple of things that TJ and Tasmin (or was it GT) said.
TJ himself said that if Tasmin and others on the team last year don't get hurt, then Brady is still here and he's still at Stanford.
Tasmin (or GT) said that coming off the Final Four year, even though they had Big Baby and the heart of that team coming back, there was no chemistry on that team. It was also noted on here by many that Big Baby and a couple of others were playing more for draft status instead of playing for LSU. I don't care how good of a coach you are, even John Wooden can't control a players attitude. Outside of sitting a player or kicking him off the team, the coach is virtually helpless.
I know it's very hard for many here to be objective but, like in fb last season, a perfect storm of "shite happens" happened with the last two years of Brady's tenure. But like anytime "shite happens", it affords you an opportunity to clean up afterwards and hiring TJ was the start.

And Bernard King went to Texas A&M, Kyle Hornsby to Indiana and Chris Duhon to Duke

how are you going to say these players never won a conference title when some of them are freshmen and sophomores with multiple years of eligibility left?? That list is simply retarded with that sentence prefacing it. If you're naming Louisiana recruits who went elsewhere though, you can also throw out Ryan Francis, Leonard Washington, Dwight Lewis, and Marcus Simmons, all of whom picked USC.

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And Bernard King went to Texas A&M, Kyle Hornsby to Indiana and Chris Duhon to Duke

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I don't believe these players were signed in this decade. Maybe Duhon was, but could you blame a player of his stature opting for Duke over LSU which was in it's first year of probation, the effects of which lasted at least four more years.

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Ex: LSU in 2006, after the FF season, returned Big Baby, Taz and GT, couldn't qualify for the NIT, losing record in the SEC. Why??? The talents were there, but not coaching.

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I agree that team underperformed. There was talent, but they lost two crucial ingredients from the Final Four team in the outside shooting and leadership of Darrel Mitchell and the inside prescence of Tyrus Thomas. Magnum Rolle had a ruptured lumbar disc and was not able to develop well enough to replace Tyrus. Tac Minor was the anticipated replacement for Mitchell but was dismissed from school and Terry Martin was inconssitent. Glen Davis also had injuries which hampered him.

So while the coaching staff may not have done their best job it's an oversimplification to claim it was all due to poor coaching. In reality that team was only four last seconds defeats from making the NCAA tournament. They still had signature wins over Texas A&M, UCONN, Tennesee, and national champions Florida.

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LSU doesn't expect a Final Four or Elite-8 every year but 2 good years out of 11 will not be tolerated,

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Half of those 11 years were affected by NCAA sanctions. It was not until 2003 that they were able to begin to emerge from the sanctions. An emerging program was just not developed enough to close players to early entry to the NBA three straight years.