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LSU Basketball Defense
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:03 pm
Is the defense designed so the big men, Epps and Reath, are way out on the top of the key or are they out of position?
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Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:04 pm to freakazoid
We really don’t have any good big men this year so they are having to play out of position
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:04 pm to freakazoid
Epps is really bad on D.
Not much effort from a lot of guys.
Gonna take a minute for Wade to change the culture.
Be patient baw.......
..... where there’s a Will, there’s a Wade.
Not much effort from a lot of guys.
Gonna take a minute for Wade to change the culture.
Be patient baw.......
..... where there’s a Will, there’s a Wade.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:04 pm to freakazoid
I mean if they're playing man to man and their man is up there then they should be too right? : 
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:05 pm to freakazoid
It’s a lot of ball pressure and switching which is good if you have the guys to do it. I don’t think we have the defenders to do it well yet, maybe Wade is just gonna stuck with it and coach em up. I have faith in him and if he thinks we are capable of getting better I’m with him.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:11 pm to freakazoid
D is strong.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:16 pm to ctiger69
I thought the D played pretty well tonight too... They had some lapses, and that one time where they didn't get back after a made basket and WW went berserk (which was awesome to see)
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:16 pm to freakazoid
WW's focus tonight was on 3pt defense. In order to defend out beyond the 3 pt line, the bigs are going to have to take up more space extending out of the lane. This is less of an issue when the other team's bigs are rarely in the low post. Of course WW will adjust when we play teams with more physical bigs.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:17 pm to ctiger69
We still sruggle with switch and switch back. Help side defense still a bit slow. Improving but still have lapses.
This post was edited on 11/29/17 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 11/30/17 at 6:43 am to freakazoid
Teams will use the guys Reath and Epps are guarding to set high ball screens for the express reason of exposing their weakness/lack of mobility or whatever you call it there. They used to do the same to Shaq in the NBA, very common.
And they have been exposed there which is not all that surprising. What is surprising is that even when we have gone smaller to try to fix that we have still struggled mightily with ball screen defending and pretty much every other aspect of defending.
A little better last night. As WW said overall we were average but we've been well below average the previous games this year, so it's progress.
And they have been exposed there which is not all that surprising. What is surprising is that even when we have gone smaller to try to fix that we have still struggled mightily with ball screen defending and pretty much every other aspect of defending.
A little better last night. As WW said overall we were average but we've been well below average the previous games this year, so it's progress.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 7:05 am to freakazoid
It is designed. It is called a hard hedge on the screen. When their (Reath/Epps) man is screening for the PG their job is not to allow the PG to step to the 3 point line and shoot or drive to the basket. By forcing them to go deep, it allows the actual defender to make his way over the screen.
If the big has his hands up and stays in the guys face, it makes it a difficult pass to hit the rolling center toward the basket. If he is able to get the pass off, the backside wing defender is supposed to rotate over to try and get the ball or defend the layup.
I think it works relatively well against teams with mediocre PG play but if someone tried to hard hedge a screen with someone like waters playing PG he would completely destroy it.
If the big has his hands up and stays in the guys face, it makes it a difficult pass to hit the rolling center toward the basket. If he is able to get the pass off, the backside wing defender is supposed to rotate over to try and get the ball or defend the layup.
I think it works relatively well against teams with mediocre PG play but if someone tried to hard hedge a screen with someone like waters playing PG he would completely destroy it.
This post was edited on 11/30/17 at 7:06 am
Posted on 11/30/17 at 7:51 am to freakazoid
He's trying to teach the bigs how to hedge on a ball screen. The big goes out and picks up the dribbler for a minute until the other defender can get around the pick. Better teams will pick and roll the shite out of that though. Can do it this way, but need good help defense down low to help pick up that rolling screener.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 7:52 am to SouthOfSouth
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I think it works relatively well against teams with mediocre PG play but if someone tried to hard hedge a screen with someone like waters playing PG he would completely destroy it.
Yep, that's what I was trying to say
Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:10 am to freakazoid
No, that is one way that Wade is trying to simplify ball screen defense. Early in the season it appeared like we were trying to double team the ball handler and somewhat scramble on the back end. We struggled with that pretty bad and gave up a boat load of open 3's. In Maui, Wade went to an automatic switch on ball screens and that helped some. Now we are going to the big man showing or hedging on the screen, allowing the on ball defender to recover and get through the screen. Then the big man has to work his arse off to get back to the screener. Until we get better on defensive end, this is probably the besr way to handle ball screens. Not perfect, but better than giving up open 3's.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:08 am to freakazoid
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Is the defense designed so the big men, Epps and Reath, are way out on the top of the key or are they out of position?
Most of the time the big men are the ones setting the on ball screeens.... therefore, if Reath is guarding the screener it's his job to "show" on the screen to allow the defender guarding the ball enough time to get over the screen at which time he has to hurry and get back to his guy who is usually either rolling to the bucket or flashing out for a 3. Our big men have struggled with this so far.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 9:18 am to freakazoid
I don't know what the coachspeak terminology is for this observation, but it seemed like the result of a week's worth of arse-chewing about defense was, for the first five minutes of the game, every LSU player on the court ran around with both arms straight up in the air, like "Look, coach, I'm playing D, see?"
Posted on 11/30/17 at 10:25 am to lowhound
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I think it works relatively well against teams with mediocre PG play but if someone tried to hard hedge a screen with someone like waters playing PG he would completely destroy it.
Uhhhhh... not if it's done correctly. If the defender hedging steps out too far and overplays then maybe but if he stays tight to the screener then the dribbler wouldn't necessarily "destroy it". AND, if the defender getting screen would simply aggressively attempt to get over the screen with the legs first we would get a few "moving screens" calls in each game. Right now we aren't getting over screens or hedging on screens well.
Also, one thing I've noticed is that we have yet to take a charge. I'm sorry but most good defensive teams take multiple charges a game... it's usually a pretty good barometer of being in the right position and being "connected" as a defense.
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