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re: LSU Announcing New President later today...UPDATE: Tate gets the job...

Posted on 5/6/21 at 11:38 pm to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/6/21 at 11:38 pm to
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Double down. Impressive.


You're so wrapped up in looking for racists that you're accusing someone agreeing with you of being racist
This post was edited on 5/6/21 at 11:39 pm
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 5/6/21 at 11:49 pm to
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Do you not share any culture with you’re countrymen of similar race?
Honestly, I probably share more culture with the black families in my neighborhood than a similarly situated white family in Boston or San Diego or any dirt poor white family anywhere.

It entirely depends on what you define as culture.

I'd wager poor white hillbillies in Appalachia have more similar outcomes to poor inner-city black kids than wealthy, culturally similar white peers in their immediate vicinity.

So, is performance related to culture or poverty mixed with some apathy towards education? Are those things synonymous?





Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18881 posts
Posted on 5/6/21 at 11:55 pm to
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I'd wager poor white hillbillies in Appalachia have more similar outcomes to poor inner-city black kids than wealthy, culturally similar white peers in their immediate vicinity.


Pretty sure that’s cultural appropriation.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88106 posts
Posted on 5/6/21 at 11:58 pm to
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I'd wager poor white hillbillies in Appalachia have more similar outcomes to poor inner-city black kids than wealthy, culturally similar white peers in their immediate vicinity.


The percentage of white LSU students is significantly higher than the percentage of white residents in Baron Rouge and in Louisiana generally. So what exactly is your point re: this conversation?
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:06 am to
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The percentage of white LSU students is significantly higher than the percentage of white residents in Baron Rouge and in Louisiana generally. So what exactly is your point re: this conversation?


True, but Louisiana has a legacy of one HBCU for every major university in the same area.
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:19 am to
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So what exactly is your point re: this conversation?
So, I'm responding to the topic of different cultures learning by different means. And, I'm saying academic performance has more to do with socioeconomics than culture.

That is, unless you're defining an entire culture as poverty and educational apathy. Then I would argue that that "culture" crosses racial lines and thus has nothing to do with race.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78287 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:45 am to
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So, is performance related to culture or poverty mixed with some apathy towards education? Are those things synonymous?



Based on some of the case studies Tate cites in his article, more financially stable black students with supportive families and good grades in other classes had issues in calculus at a higher rate too
This post was edited on 5/7/21 at 12:46 am
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78287 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 1:03 am to
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Ah yes, a place where judging people on their own individual merits instead of the color of their skin is a conservative echo chamber. Mlk would be completely shocked.


They get upset when they get judges on the contents of their character too.

See any of the threads about “cancel culture”
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/7/21 at 1:14 am to
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So the [his] argument is that black children lack the mental capacity to learn math in the same manner as Hispanics, Caucasians, Asians, etc? Why aren’t blacks offended by this bullshite.


If you think different means lesser than it would be insulting.

Posted by bnb9433
Member since Jan 2015
14746 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 3:15 am to
LSU is now fully woke
Posted by UptownnMike
Uptown New Orleans
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 5/7/21 at 4:50 am to
Hahaha
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34112 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 7:19 am to
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If you think different means lesser than it would be insulting.



In this context of learning and academic achievement, different is lesser.

There is no polite way of saying an entire race of people is bad at math and needs super special processes to learn it.

It’s also bullshite.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
31882 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 7:27 am to
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Collis Temple


Got rich off playing the race game LONG before it was even a twinkle in the national eye. And yes, he’s a slob, and he DGAF. Probably the most powerful dude in that picture.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/7/21 at 8:49 am to
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They get upset when they get judges on the contents of their character too. See any of the threads about “cancel culture”


I’m sure somewhere in your simple mind you think you actually made some kind of point here.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78287 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 9:29 am to
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In this context of learning and academic achievement, different is lesser.

There is no polite way of saying an entire race of people is bad at math and needs super special processes to learn it.

It’s also bullshite.



If you can get to the same results but just need a different method than they aren’t lesser.

The real question is why does this upset you?

The man has a PhD in education with a focus in math. Why are you upset that he actually thinks about how we teach math and if we can do it better?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78287 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 9:30 am to
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I’m sure somewhere in your simple mind you think you actually made some kind of point here.


I did, but I expect you to get it.
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
10946 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 9:38 am to
Can anyone explain how Tate even got to be a finalist, when he wasn't on the list of candidates?

Original Candidate List
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34112 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 10:04 am to
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Why are you upset that he actually thinks about how we teach math and if we can do it better?


I'm all for improvements in teaching methods. But claiming that students with zero commonalities other than their race need special methods to learn math is textbook racism.

I know we've gotten numb to claims of racism, and 90 percent of the racist accusations are bullshite and just general rudeness, but this type of claim would get people fired and careers ruined if the language was mildly tweaked.

It's ridiculous what people will accept.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34112 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 10:08 am to
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The real question is why does this upset you?


You're asking why I care if the newly hired president of our flagship university, where me, my wife and all my children have graduated, subscribes to and promotes a radical, racist, political and educational philosophy?



Posted by glaucon
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2008
5292 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 10:15 am to
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Tate gets hired to merge Southern into LSU starting with the law school then department by department shutting down part of the LSU campus and shifting key sections of the integrated school into Southern
it is after all, the woke thing to do ensuring better facilities and lower overall costs for the black students.


Nothing you said here makes any sense from any political point of view. It is just dumb wankery.
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