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re: LSU 80 @ Bama 82 game over
Posted on 1/25/14 at 10:58 pm to heartbreakTiger
Posted on 1/25/14 at 10:58 pm to heartbreakTiger
In a way, I'm with Johnny Jones on TO usage. There are way too many interruptions between foul calls, coaches' time-outs, and media time-outs. A lot of college basketball games lack any flow because of all these stoppages. There needs to be a rule change.
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 10:59 pm to tigers32
I agree but I think jones waits way too long at times when the other team is on a run before calling a timeout.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 11:03 pm to heartbreakTiger
Honestly, I'm going to reserve judging Jones' coaching ability until he gets some of his guys into the program. He's not above criticism, but I don't think he can do everything he wants to yet. It'll be another year or two. He's coming from a long stint at North Texas to the SEC. I think there will be some growing pains with Jones as well as this team.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 11:06 pm to tigers32
I agree with that, I have been more critical of him this year but I'm not giving up on him yet. I feel like we have enough talent to where we should be better and he has had some bad nights. I don't think he should be getting out coached by arse clowns like andy kennedy and anthony grant even if the players aren't all his. I do think he gets at least 4 years to get a team of all his own players in. I really hope he gets us turned around because I like what he has done since being hired other than the coaching the last few games.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 11:08 pm to heartbreakTiger
As long as the team develops throughout the season I'm ok. I wanna see a good effort against UK tues nite.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 11:10 pm to Ignignot
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As long as the team develops throughout the season I'm ok.
This is where I'm at. Jones wants to build a program, and I think he'll do it. I'm more concerned about player/team progress than playing in March.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 11:10 pm to tigers32
only time out rule change I would make and I think has a possibility to be changed is to get rid of piggy backing timeouts.
piggy backing for those who don't know is when its time for one of the 4 min. tv timeouts say with 3:49 to go in a half the coach will call a time out. when come back out and ball is knocked out of bounds you get another full timeout so you have more time out time than playing time which needs to be fixed.no reason a timeout can't turn into the tv timeout
piggy backing for those who don't know is when its time for one of the 4 min. tv timeouts say with 3:49 to go in a half the coach will call a time out. when come back out and ball is knocked out of bounds you get another full timeout so you have more time out time than playing time which needs to be fixed.no reason a timeout can't turn into the tv timeout
Posted on 1/25/14 at 11:13 pm to Ignignot
well that is a problem because for the last month it feels like we are going in reverse. we played well in ooc play outside of the rhode island game.
the umass and memphis loss were forgivable and not so bad. The UAB win was amazing basketball and effort by our team. Since then though its been a mixed bag of shite effort, bad shooting and just bad play in general with the exception being the Vandy and mizzou games.
I really think we need to go more up tempo. I know its been discussed that we cant press all game but we need to press in more spots. I have already beaten that to death though, but i don't think we can press tuesday. UK is going to maul that, so it should be compacted 2-3 zone vs uk until they hit 3s on us
the umass and memphis loss were forgivable and not so bad. The UAB win was amazing basketball and effort by our team. Since then though its been a mixed bag of shite effort, bad shooting and just bad play in general with the exception being the Vandy and mizzou games.
I really think we need to go more up tempo. I know its been discussed that we cant press all game but we need to press in more spots. I have already beaten that to death though, but i don't think we can press tuesday. UK is going to maul that, so it should be compacted 2-3 zone vs uk until they hit 3s on us
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 11:14 pm to fightingtiger2335
I think it's bad for basketball. At some point, the guys just gotta play.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 2:32 am to tigers32
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I'm with Johnny Jones on TO usage
Having been at the game, JJ called a timeout wihtin the last 5 minutes everytime the Bama crowd really got going. And coming out of everytimeout the Bama crowd was sitting back down as opposed to standing going wild. I dont fault JJ for the timeouts even though there were points within the last few minutes I wished we still had them. But had we got our shite together at any point in the first half, this wouldnt even be a discussion.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 3:09 am to tigers32
quote:That's exactly what all you excuse makers said about Trent Johnson in years two till the end. Always wait till next year. (Like pathetic Ole Miss fans) Next season comes and goes and there's no difference.
Honestly, I'm going to reserve judging Jones' coaching ability until he gets some of his guys into the program. He's not above criticism, but I don't think he can do everything he wants to yet. It'll be another year or two. He's coming from a long stint at North Texas to the SEC. I think there will be some growing pains with Jones as well as this team.
You can see if a coach technically knows his X's and O's immediately. It aint there.
Well, there goes the Kentucky game journey. Was waiting to see if the drive was going to be worth it, but considering that the trip would be four and a half hours on a freezing interstate, I think I'll pass. Don't want to get stuck out on the road either coming or going to watch a team that loses to freaking Alabama in basketball.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 9:52 am to BRAVEHEART
I'm gunna call that hickey has a great game against UK. I'm super pumped even if we lost at Bama. Florida will compete for a championship and nearly got out of coleman alive. We are gunna play solid basketball I say 75 to 70 LSU win.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 10:45 am to CecilShortsHisPants
who were the ref's and their home towns?????
Posted on 1/26/14 at 10:50 am to heartbreakTiger
Yes, some of our players play lazy half-court D...we also had 2 sub 6 foot guys guarding a 6'6 guard who is j-ing it. Cooper was just shooting over Stringer and at times it appears he's wide open because we have no length.
Mickey absolutely jogged to get out to Hale like 4 times before that last 3...how's he gonna teach Mickey a lesson, take him out the game? Ha ok.
Our program is headed in the right direction, and for those who can't see that, I don't know what to tell y'all. I'm not sure what JOB and Mickey will do in the offseason, but I know they SHOULD come back. But with the classes CJJ is bringing in, we will start being in the thick of ncaa tourney bids.
LSU basketball is a border tourney school, we always have been. In the last 50 years we've been to the Final Four 3 times. A good season for LSU basketball is 2nd round/Sweet 16. CJJ is getting good classes, and his type of players. I expect the fruits of those players to develop soon.
There's no player on our team I "dislike", but all have some type of serious serious flaw with them. Whether it be height, shooting ability, hustle. Some of those can be fixed, some can't, and some are mental. Time will tell, but I think CJJ should get some slack right now since he's midway through his 2nd season and he did a lot with a less than desirable team last year.
Mickey absolutely jogged to get out to Hale like 4 times before that last 3...how's he gonna teach Mickey a lesson, take him out the game? Ha ok.
Our program is headed in the right direction, and for those who can't see that, I don't know what to tell y'all. I'm not sure what JOB and Mickey will do in the offseason, but I know they SHOULD come back. But with the classes CJJ is bringing in, we will start being in the thick of ncaa tourney bids.
LSU basketball is a border tourney school, we always have been. In the last 50 years we've been to the Final Four 3 times. A good season for LSU basketball is 2nd round/Sweet 16. CJJ is getting good classes, and his type of players. I expect the fruits of those players to develop soon.
There's no player on our team I "dislike", but all have some type of serious serious flaw with them. Whether it be height, shooting ability, hustle. Some of those can be fixed, some can't, and some are mental. Time will tell, but I think CJJ should get some slack right now since he's midway through his 2nd season and he did a lot with a less than desirable team last year.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 11:36 am to LSUButt
I agree we are heading the right direction with the classes we are bringing in. I don't like some of the growing pains in jones coaching this year but it is what it is and most of the anger is in game frustration.
Yes, he should have taken mickey out for a stretch and told him you are on the bench for not guarding against the 3. then put him back in, I would hope our coach isn't afraid to pull one of the star players to get him back on track. He doesn't have to sit long but just a few minutes to get the shite corrected.
We should be very good next year considering we only lose stringer and coleman. I don't see anyway JOB leaves unless he turns back into a double double monster for the rest of the year, which if he does that we could go on a serious run and actually be a threat to make the tourny.
Yes, he should have taken mickey out for a stretch and told him you are on the bench for not guarding against the 3. then put him back in, I would hope our coach isn't afraid to pull one of the star players to get him back on track. He doesn't have to sit long but just a few minutes to get the shite corrected.
We should be very good next year considering we only lose stringer and coleman. I don't see anyway JOB leaves unless he turns back into a double double monster for the rest of the year, which if he does that we could go on a serious run and actually be a threat to make the tourny.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 11:45 am to heartbreakTiger
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Yes, he should have taken mickey out for a stretch and told him you are on the bench for not guarding against the 3. then put him back in, I would hope our coach isn't afraid to pull one of the star players to get him back on track. He doesn't have to sit long but just a few minutes to get the shite corrected.
Calipari does that all game long, granted he has enough 5* players to do that.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 11:52 am to The Truth 34
we could shift the line up around to make it work for a few mins. martin could have probably handled hale.
I don't think mickey should ever sit long but pull him and tell him we need you to close out better on the 3 point line and then send him back in. Mickey isn't the type of kid that is going to tell the coach to frick off.
I don't think mickey should ever sit long but pull him and tell him we need you to close out better on the 3 point line and then send him back in. Mickey isn't the type of kid that is going to tell the coach to frick off.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 11:52 am to BRAVEHEART
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That's exactly what all you excuse makers said about Trent Johnson in years two till the end. Always wait till next year. (Like pathetic Ole Miss fans) Next season comes and goes and there's no difference.
Did you really just compare the two? Difference being that even though both may be average in-game coachs, Johnny Jones can (or is willing to) play the game so to speak when it comes to recruiting, TJ was the worst recruiter at LSU in any sport imo in the last decade.
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Don't want to get stuck out on the road either coming or going to watch a team that loses to freaking Alabama in basketball.
Were you this negative when LSU lost at Coleman in 2006 (Final Four year) or 2009 (SEC Championship year)? Coleman is not an easy place to win for LSU, not sure why, just isn't
Posted on 1/26/14 at 12:13 pm to heartbreakTiger
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Mickey isn't the type of kid that is going to tell the coach to frick off
Agree. He seems like a very coachable player.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 12:20 pm to LSUButt
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Mickey absolutely jogged to get out to Hale like 4 times before that last 3...how's he gonna teach Mickey a lesson, take him out the game? Ha ok.
This is the dilemma for Jones. Mickey is one of our best players, and needs to be in the game for us to win. But, he was having a really hard time closing out. It's something I'm sure will be addressed during film study.
Also, Mickey plays a lot of minutes for us at PF (we need him to). At some point, fatigue has to set in.
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