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Posted on 1/31/12 at 3:47 pm to just me
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Mett had never seen a Div I defense let alone an SEC defense. Both Jefferson and Lee had. To overcome that experience divide, Mett had to have had a significant talent advantage.
Something that could have been rectified during the year, and overrated. I think he will prove this year, starting in game one, that he is every bit as legit as some of us believe.
Saying Mett had to have a significant talent advantage to overcome experience is silly. It's what you can do on the field, not how long you have done it.
Posted on 1/31/12 at 3:48 pm to junkfunky
Was JJ any good at practice?
He was terrible in the spring game
He was terrible in the spring game
Posted on 1/31/12 at 3:49 pm to TheDoc
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Was JJ any good at practice?
I don't know and I'm not arguing. I'm just trying to lighten the mood. I thought it was kinda funny.
This post was edited on 1/31/12 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 1/31/12 at 3:50 pm to junkfunky
I get what you're saying. But come September, everyone is going to be questioning miles judgement even more when Mett is lighting it up.
Posted on 1/31/12 at 3:56 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:I agree that Mett will probably be a very good QB.
I think he will prove this year, starting in game one, that he is every bit as legit as some of us believe.
quote:Wow. That's a pretty silly statement to shortcut analysis. Of course, it's what you can do on the field. However, experience usually has a dramatic impact on performance.
Saying Mett had to have a significant talent advantage to overcome experience is silly. It's what you can do on the field, not how long you have done it.
And it's not just experience in games. It's also length of instruction time. Facing teams in practice during this past season. All of that will have a very positive impact. And that's also according to Mett himself.
This post was edited on 1/31/12 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 1/31/12 at 4:04 pm to just me
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Saying Mett had to have a significant talent advantage to overcome experience is silly. It's what you can do on the field, not how long you have done it.
Wow. That's a pretty silly statement to shortcut analysis. Of course, it's what you can do on the field. However, experience usually has a dramatic impact on performance.
And it's not just experience in games. It's also length of instruction time. Facing teams in practice during this past season. All of that will have a very positive impact. And that's also according to Mett himself.
Talent alone isn't going to win every game. I highly doubt Mettenberger was so far behind the other two when it came to the offense under a new OC that it kept him off the field. It's my opinion that JJ, as long as healthy and active was going to gain, then retain the starting position and keep it, regardless of any other talent on the team.
If Mettenberger couldn't have done better in the final game and the SECCG, next year will be a disappointment.
This post was edited on 1/31/12 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 1/31/12 at 4:06 pm to just me
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Mett had never seen a Div I defense let alone an SEC defense. Both Jefferson and Lee had. To overcome that experience divide, Mett had to have had a significant talent advantage.
He practiced against the UGA D his freshmen year and he and Murray were too close to call in the Spring prior to him getting kicked out of UGA. He could have been starting for UGA in 2010. I am of the belief he should have gotten to play much more in 2011, instead of going into 2012 with little meaningful playing reps. What if JJ had not been reinstated? How much more PT would Mett have received?
Posted on 1/31/12 at 4:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I feel like les thought JJ earned the starting spot
It didn't matter who was the best qb, JJ "earned" it in miles eyes.
It didn't matter who was the best qb, JJ "earned" it in miles eyes.
Posted on 1/31/12 at 4:16 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:It's my opinion that if Mett was significantly better in picking up the offense and reads, he would have played.
I highly doubt Mettenberger was so far behind the other two when it came to the offense under a new OC that it kept him off the field.
quote:I know you will agree that Georgia and Bama were the only elite defenses that LSU faced. The entire offense struggled in those games. LSU had a difficult time against Bama regardless of who was under center for LSU.
If Mettenberger couldn't have done better in the final game and the SECCG, next year will be a disappointment.
Nevertheless, it is my opinion that Jefferson could have done better in both games. He, like many of his teammates, played poorly.
Posted on 1/31/12 at 4:30 pm to just me
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If Mettenberger couldn't have done better in the final game and the SECCG, next year will be a disappointment.
I know you will agree that Georgia and Bama were the only elite defenses that LSU faced. The entire offense struggled in those games. LSU had a difficult time against Bama regardless of who was under center for LSU.
Two best defensive units LSU faced this year, yes but UGA isn't really an elite unit.
I don't believe it matters how much talent Mettenberger brought to the table, or how much of a grasp of the offense he had at the time, he wasn't going to play in those two games.
I don't think it will take him long to show why he is as highly heralded as he is, and take control of the offense.
Posted on 1/31/12 at 4:33 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Everything I've seen from him leads me to agree with your statement.
I don't think it will take him long to show why he is as highly heralded as he is, and take control of the offense.
Posted on 1/31/12 at 4:38 pm to TheDoc
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I feel like les thought JJ earned the starting spot
It didn't matter who was the best qb, JJ "earned" it in miles eyes.
Statement made my Les was something to the effect of "owed." No one but JJ was going to play the final two games IMO. Fine, as long as you can still win.
This post was edited on 1/31/12 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 1/31/12 at 4:40 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Two best defensive units LSU faced this year, yes but UGA isn't really an elite unit.
Nationally, UGA was 11th in Rush D, 4th in pass efficiency, and 5th in total D. They were very good the last half of the season which was their second season under Grantham and the 3-4 he installed. One can argue they didn't play any of the top 3 West teams, but they drubbed AU just like Bama and LSU. UGA just turned in a lot of Jekyl and Hyde offensive performances along the way, which still makes me wonder if Mett would have beaten out Murray.
Posted on 1/31/12 at 5:04 pm to just me
quote:This type of stuff is not welcome here.
Mett had never seen a Div I defense let alone an SEC defense. Both Jefferson and Lee had. To overcome that experience divide, Mett had to have had a significant talent advantage. Mett may look brilliant this year against every defense he faces. However, that does not mean that he would have looked brilliant last year. He has now learned from Krags for over a year, and he has faced LSU in practice for over a year. He also has that year of experience to deposit into his bank of confidence. It makes a difference.
Posted on 1/31/12 at 5:05 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Sure he will. He's had a year in the system, and with Krags.
I think he will prove this year, starting in game one, that he is every bit as legit as some of us believe.
Posted on 1/31/12 at 5:23 pm to TheDoc
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I feel like les thought JJ earned the starting spot
It didn't matter who was the best qb, JJ "earned" it in miles eyes.
If we are just speculating, isn't it also possible that Miles wanted to protect Lee from "you people" after what he put him through in '08? I'm kidding of course, but seriously, I'm just fricking with you. Mwahahaha.
Posted on 1/31/12 at 5:35 pm to That LSU Guy
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I think he will prove this year, starting in game one, that he is every bit as legit as some of us believe.
Sure he will. He's had a year in the system, and with Krags.
He had been with the team since last spring practice. I think he has been ready. He will step in and things will run smoothly from day one.
Posted on 1/31/12 at 5:40 pm to just me
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If the staff thought that Mett would have given LSU a significantly better chance to win, Mett would have played.
Bull fricking shite. Les thought things would change in the 2nd like they did against Georgia or was sticking with his boy rain or shine. Didn't matter who was in his reserves.
Even JJ post mortem, we have to continue to hear "best chance to win" mantra for those that adore him?
Posted on 1/31/12 at 5:41 pm to mlminbtr
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I won't mention a name, but a local sports talk radio host told me a month before it happened that when, not if, JJ was reinstated on the team within a couple of games he would be the starter and JL would not see the field again for any significant snaps and that's exactly what happened.
It took a radio host for you to see this?
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