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re: Love to hear from Kelly diehards

Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:31 am to
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67061 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:31 am to
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Of course not. That would mean that Kelly didn't do his job.


What is your indication that the team has regressed?
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17157 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:32 am to
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None of us are qualified to accurately judge the current hires.

So what makes you qualified to say that his initial hires were bad?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67061 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:33 am to
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So what makes you qualified to say that his initial hires were bad?


I'm not

I'm just going off of the fact that they weren't landing talent, not developing players, and got fired.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31973 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:34 am to
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What is your indication that the team has regressed?



It's already been explained. By several posters. Not sure why it's so difficult for you to digest it.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67061 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:36 am to
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It's already been explained. By several posters. Not sure why it's so difficult for you to digest it.


I haven't seen anyone make a good case for any particular area where the team has actually regressed.

Maybe drops? It seems like there were more of those today.

I don't really think the team looks significantly different now than they have all year, which is actually a bad thing. They should be improving.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31973 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:38 am to
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They should be improving.



And they're not. That's the whole point of people being upset.


This post was edited on 11/17/24 at 2:39 am
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67061 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:38 am to
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And they're not.


Agreed.

But you said they've regressed, how so?
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31973 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:40 am to
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ou said they've regressed, how so?


Why does it matter?


They're not getting better and you agreed.


Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17157 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:41 am to
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I'm not

I'm just going off of the fact that they weren't landing talent, not developing players, and got fired.

So you think coaches that can’t land talent, can’t develop players, then get fired are good hires?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67061 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:41 am to
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Why does it matter?


They're not getting better and you agreed.



I mean you've questioned all of my statements multiple times yet can't actually present any logical explanation for your own.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67061 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:42 am to
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So you think coaches that can’t land talent, can’t develop players, then get fired are good hires?


Um no.

What are you even talking about?
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17157 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:43 am to
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But you said they've regressed, how so?

Nuss is turning the ball over more. The OL is giving up more sacks.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31973 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:44 am to
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I mean you've questioned all of my statements multiple times yet can't actually present any logical explanation for your own.







I, and other posters have presented logical conclusions based on the results of the last three games.


You either are choosing to not agree or are bored and want to troll people. It's been explained to you like you're 5 years old.

I'm hardly bent out of shape but I'm not going to waste my time answering the same question for hours.


Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17157 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:44 am to
Why do you feel like you can say that he messed up on the initial defensive hires but you can’t say that he messed up on the OC hire?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67061 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:46 am to
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Nuss is turning the ball over more. The OL is giving up more sacks.


Mostly because teams have figured out that they can just stunt in the middle and Chester will whiff. Combine that will Dellinger being injured and it's super easy to get pressure right up the middle which is where Nuss usually runs into trouble.

I don't know if that's really regression, Dellinger just got hurt and teams figured out that Chester is a liability.

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67061 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:48 am to
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Why do you feel like you can say that he messed up on the initial defensive hires but you can’t say that he messed up on the OC hire?


The initial defensive hires weren't landing talent, developing players, and were fired.

They had two seasons and two full recruiting cycles.

Sloan has been OC for less than a year, how can you say he was a bad hire? Like what is your major criticism of him?
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17157 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:48 am to
It doesn’t matter. It’s regression. For whatever reason, they are statistically regressing.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67061 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:49 am to
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I, and other posters have presented logical conclusions based on the results of the last three games.



No you haven't.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17157 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:51 am to
What is the cutoff on when you can decide whether someone is a good or bad hire? Please give me an exact number of days. I will hold off my judgement until then.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17157 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:51 am to
I gave you statistical evidence.
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