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Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:40 am to LSUStar
bama has and will continue to be the flagship product for espn’s $3 Billion contract with the SEC. with that said: frick bams
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:43 am to LSUStar
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Lobbying for the Gumps has already begun
I'm hoping Auburn wins the Iron Bowl to really pour some salt into those wounds.
It'd be fun to see ESPN trying to justify a 2-loss Alabama over a 1-loss Oregon.
And, BTW, I do not think Alabama will get in over a 1-loss B12 or P12 champion. Oregon > Oklahoma > Alabama, IMO, for the playoff committee.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:44 am to This guy larry
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If Oklahoma loses again, bama will slide in. I dont see Oregon getting the nod over bama even though they win the pac12.
That would be a giant frick you to a major Power 5 conference though. That would be a ballsy decision by the committee especially when it mean pulling in the West Coast viewers. A final 4 of LSU, OSU, Clemson and Oregon would literally have fans from coast to coast and everywhere in between.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:45 am to LSUStar
Well that is context, if they win out and are at 11-1, they will be in the discussion. But I have also heard that they need help. I just listened to Childers and Rick Neuhesal (spelling) on ESPN and he said it is both Resume and Eye Test. The problem for Bama is the resume just is not there and if there are 12-1 Conference champs, they in his opinion should not get in this year. Lets assume LSU wins out, he stated Auburn beating UGA and being a 9-2 team going into the Iron bowl and Bama winning solidly at JH has to happen for them to have a chance to be in the best 1 loss team conversation.
Other writers are saying the same thing, got to look at the entire landscape.
Other writers are saying the same thing, got to look at the entire landscape.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:49 am to beauchristopher
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They said they should put the best teams in.
What is the point of playing?? According to them then just put the 4 most talented rosters in. Put the top 4 recruiting rankings in.
Don't underestimate the pull of Saban and ESPN. I will surprised if they don't finish at 4.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:50 am to LSUStar
I just knew it. This was a quick kick off to the campaign though. No time to lose I guess.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:55 am to EasterEgg
quote:this is correct. It's going to be the SEC champ, CLemson, Big Ten champ, and either a 1-loss Pac 12 (Oregon) or a 1-loss Big 12 champ (Oklahoma).
The CFP committee will not give 2 shits about what ESPN thinks or wants. As long as there are 4 or more undefeated or 1-loss conference champions, nobody is taking the backdoor.
No way Bama gets in over a 1-loss Power5 conf champ.
Now, if Oregon and OU both lose another game, that does open the door. But the odds of that are very slim.
I think Oregon is the 4th team in. The Committee shut out the Pac12 the last two years. They won't shut out Oregon if they go 12-1, win the Pac12, and their only loss was a last second loss to Auburn.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:57 am to Htowntiger90
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It could come down to Alabama, Oregon & Oklahoma all with 1 loss, so who has the best loss?
Better question than the best loss, who has the best win/s? Bama will literally only have a 4 loss Auburn to stand on as a "quality win". They don't even win their division in their conference with their schedule, they had one game...a HOME game at that, that they needed to get up for and play and they couldn't do it.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 9:58 am to MightyYat
quote:no chance, and I mean NO chance, the Committee puts in Bama over a 12-1 Pac12 champ Oregon.
That [Bama in instead of Oregon] would be a giant frick you to a major Power 5 conference though. That would be a ballsy decision by the committee especially when it mean pulling in the West Coast viewers. A final 4 of LSU, OSU, Clemson and Oregon would literally have fans from coast to coast and everywhere in between.
The Committee left out the Pac12 champ the last 2 years. It won't happen this year if Oregon is 12-1 and the Pac12 champ, with their only loss being a last second loss to Auburn.
This post was edited on 11/11/19 at 9:59 am
Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:01 am to honeybadger07
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Better question than the best loss, who has the best win/s? Bama will literally only have a 4 loss Auburn to stand on as a "quality win". They don't even win their division in their conference with their schedule, they had one game...a HOME game at that, that they needed to get up for and play and they couldn't do it.
Correct, what are the best wins. Ohio State loss by 40 to a 5-7 Purdue team a few years ago. That is what cost them. UGA loss in OT to SCAR, but they had 4 TO's and dominated the yardstick 2 to 1.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:03 am to atltiger6487
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No way Bama gets in over a 1-loss Power5 conf champ.
The fact that some members of the media are advocating that Bama should get in ahead of a 12-1 conference champ that had to play and win and extra game is absolutely ridiculous and it sickens me.
If Oregon wins out, they would've won 12 straight games and beaten a top ten team in Utah. Bama's best win would be over a 2-loss Auburn team. We need to get rid of the "eye test" and adopt some concrete quidelines, otherwise this will keep happening.
I wish just one respectable on-air media pundit would say something to the effect of "LSU got it done on the field. They won the game they had to win. They had this shite happen to them in 2011, but it's not happening again because Bama has accomplished nothing on the field and therefore shouldn't be rewarded for it."
This post was edited on 11/11/19 at 10:16 am
Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:13 am to LouisianaLonghorn
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The most disgusting thing is that it completely invalidates our win on Saturday. It’s like it never happened. They did it to us in 2011 and they’re trying to do it again
This is what aggravates me the most, especially since both years we beat them IN THEIR HOUSE!
I sat in the Dome for that stupid rematch, and you could feel the uneasiness among the Tiger fans. But I have a feeling that if Bama gets gifted another rematch without even winning their division, it will be a different story this time: different coaches, different attitude, and different QB. Bring it on, Gumps
Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:17 am to mceuph
If Bama gets in through the back door again, then the college playoffs will be forever tainted. You cannot keep giving the same team 2nd chances to win the national title. 2 of Bama's titles in 2011 and 2017 are because of 2nd chances. The regular season should count more. The committee needs to change the selection rules to reflect this. You should have to win your conference to get in. Notre Dame should be forced into a conference or not be allowed to participate. And saying the 4 best teams should get in is a totally inaccurate opinion. Case in point last year. Bama was hands down the unbeatable team until Clemson embarrassed them.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:19 am to This guy larry
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I doubt it. The rest of the country is sick of seeing bama.
16-20M people watching Saturday disagree
Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:25 am to lsuin92
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I sat in the Dome for that stupid rematch, and you could feel the uneasiness among the Tiger fans. But I have a feeling that if Bama gets gifted another rematch without even winning their division, it will be a different story this time: different coaches, different attitude, and different QB. Bring it on, Gump
The bottom line is that they don't deserve a rematch. They haven't earned it on the field. They have the advantage of their "pedigree" and the massive media spin machine. If they get a rematch and win, it will basically invalidate the entire season. Saturday's win will be essentially wiped from the record, and all you'll hear is that Bama won the game that "mattered." Saturday's win should matter. The fact that their best win to date is over unranked A&M should matter. If they win out, their only top 25 win will be over 2-loss Auburn. That should matter.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:32 am to LouisianaLonghorn
quote:you are confused. The system is there to maximize $$$$$$$$$$$$$. That system is not broken. Fan mindset is just wrong. They are not trying to crown the best team or the most deserving team. They are trying to make $$$$$$$$$$$$$. Don't defend capitalism and then say they shouldn't do what capitalism does.
then the system is broken and all semblance of fairness and impartially is out the window.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:37 am to LSUStar
This all has a lot to do with Penn St losing. If Penn St would have won, they would've had a much better resume than Bama going into the OSU game.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:53 am to LouisianaLonghorn
quote:you can't get completely rid of the eye test because there are 130 teams and they only play 12 games and there are only 4 playoff spots. There's so little cross-conference play that it makes it impossible to make concrete apples-to-apples comparisons.
We need to get rid of the "eye test" and adopt some concrete quidelines, otherwise this will keep happening.
It's not like the NFL, where there are only 32 teams and 16 games, and each has to play each division opponent twice. That allows them to take division winners and a few wild cards, just based on record.
But that's really not possible in the college game.
Once we go to 8 teams, we'll take the Power5 conf champs and then the Committee can pick 3 wild cards. Much more concrete and no subjectivity, at least for 5 of the 8 teams. I don't mind the Committee picking teams 6, 7, and 8. Raw metrics aren't really possible to do that, again because the schedules are so different.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 12:22 pm to El Magnifico
Definitely pulling for Auburn to bury the gumps.
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