re: list potentially tiger's weakest link for 2009 season

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makes no sense

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it makes perfect sese, he will be able to run away from the land sahrks unlike Lee who would get eaten alive

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LSUBCSCHAMPS11

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Yes cause 3 games with 9 sacks is greater than Lee 8 games with 8 sacks...

QB who attempt to do things with their feet take more sacks than pocket passing QB's

Pentalties... will kill us a les miles team always leads the way

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Yes so let's not start a dual threat qb

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Apparently stats, reasoning, and reading is lost on this crowd. I stated a fact and can back it up with stats. Never once did I say "dont start JJ" but apparently its what you "read."

I forget this is the rant and people's opinion mean more than stats because they all know more than the coaches.

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You realize in 3 games JJ took 9 sacks last year
In 8 games JL took 8 sacks?

JJ as a QB will take more sacks because he will attempt to do things with his feet when coverage is good. Sometimes resulting in tackles behind line of scrimmage or a sack.

With 2 new offensive lineman the protection may not be as consistent as last year thus resulting in even more sacks.

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Maybe bc in those three games, two of them were basically on the road, and Ole Miss and GTech had the best DLs we faced besides Florida.

And how is the protection going to be worse when you return both offensive tackles?

Helms was definitely a solid player, but I'd rather lose a center than a tackle for pass protection purposes. Plus, Hebert should be at least decent if healthy (which he should be), and Lonergan will eventually be really good if he stops dribbling his shotgun snaps at JJ's feet.

The fact that Barksdale has more than 1 year of playing experience on the OL now will make up for anything we may have lost at center. That was a huge question mark at this time last year considering he had been a DT his whole life up until a year earlier. You would think that he will be much improved this year, in theory.

lol, Jefferson wasn't bad in either the second half against Arky or GTech, that's absurd. He basically simply had the game taken out of his hands due to the score/circumstances. And anyone would be a moron to even look at the Ole Myth game considering he had 0 snaps in practice with the first team before then.

I would doubt he's a dud. You don't play under pressure like he did against GTech and make some of the throws he did in that game if you are a dud. Guys who are 6'4" with his arm and athleticsm and poise simply aren't duds. He was doing stuff against Arky after one week of practice reps that Lee didn't do after a whole season. He was doing stuff against GTech after one month of practice reps that Perrilloux was doing after 3 years.

Back to the original point, I'm not saying he'll get sacked more or less (you may be right, but it doesn't mean a hill of beans anyway, it's an overrated stat). I'm simply saying that to ignore the circumstances of two of them basically being away games (on fast surfaces as well), and two of them being against good pass rushes, would be naive. It would be more accurate if you stripped out the Troy, App St, Tulane, Miss St, and even Bama (crappy pass rush) games; and then compared them. Comps to the games Jefferson played in for Lee would be Scar, Auburn, Florida, and Georgia.

Almost everything in college is hope dude, the majority of players every year are unproven. It's simple common sense to see what "hope" has a better chance to come true than other team's "hope".

Hebert is smart, athletic, and is aggressive, that's why everyone (not just the LSU faithful) liked him out of high school.

Considering Barksdale's athleticism and the lack of experience he had last year, it's a pretty good bet for anyone who has followed college football over the years.

Again, Jefferson was good against Arkansas (all their fans are intelligent enough to acknowledge he's a stud). He completed his first 9 passes of the game against GTech. He was 8-10 in the spring game. It's safe to say his completion percentage is going to be much better than those skewed stats from last year show.

Thanks for the sack stats. Like I told you, I couldn't care less about that overrated stat. Tom Brady gets sacked a decent amount, it doesn't matter. Lee is a different type of guy than Jefferson, Jarrett doesn't hold onto the ball and he throws the ball up at the first sign of pressure.

They are skewed bc I'm not going to consider his 1-6 against Troy, considering his lack of practice reps and preparation for that game. And I mentioned before that I'm not going to consider Ole Miss for that very same reason. That's just being fair and realistic.

The game was out of Jefferson's hands in the second half against GTech and Arky simply bc we were way ahead, and obviously weren't as aggressive offensively bc of it. Arky probably had to do more with the fact that we had so few possessions on offense in that half bc Malveto's defense couldn't get off the field.

I was using Brady as an example of someone who will sometimes hold the ball and take sacks bc of that. Peyton in contrast, gets rid of the ball more and may throw the ball up for grabs more occassionally bc of it. That's why his sack totals are always way less than Brady's. Brees is the same way as Manning.

Jefferson will get better at that now that he has experience and will recognize blitzes better. But like I said, it doesn't matter considering it didn't cause INTs or really anything negative. Sometimes it is best to eat the ball, and that's what he did.

All of the rest you say is certainly fair. I just think it's safe to say that he won't be a weak. And potentially, he certainly can be a star. Guys who have his talent, poise, and intangibles just aren't going to be weak links.

And Jefferson would have thrown for 200 yards had the Lafell TD not been called back.

He was not getting many first team reps before Ole Miss, you would certainly think Lee got 90% of them considering how much he needed them.

I just think the GTech game and even the spring game are the most realistic gauges of him. He had a full month of first team reps before the bowl game, so it was not a fluke that he played like that. And while I know it was only a spring game, it was still against live hitting and decent competition. I'm not saying at all that he's going to come close to an 80% clip rate, but it shows his accuracy, comfort in the offense, and the confidence that he oozes as a QB.

I don't remember any of the fumbles, honestly. I believe you, I just don't remember them. They probably weren't bad if I can't remember them. How many did he do in each respective game, and were are you getting that info from? I'm not sure if I watched a replay of the Arky, but I did rewatch the GTech game and can't recall anything really bad that he did.

JJ didn't struggle though. Once he got practice reps, he excelled. Even though his numbers aren't great against Arky, he still played very well considering the circumstances. For some context, Florida struggled for three quarters on offense at Arky, and Snead had a mediocre completion percentage there. The fact that JJ had 31 points on the board a few mintues into the 3rd quarter, hit some big passes downfield, made no mistakes, and impressed fans from both teams tells you what you need to know there. Playing a conference road game is not easy, as Tebow/Snead can tell you in their games that I mentioned there.

Jefferson though is more talented than Lee and most any other QB in the country. He's taller, he's more mobile, and he's more poised.

And no, JJ can put up much better numbers than Wilson did for Bama, and certainly as good as or better than someone like Tyler did. He is much more talented than those two guys.