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re: List of QB's signed in the Les Miles era
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:19 am to AlwysATgr
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:19 am to AlwysATgr
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But Les's troubles in finding a new gig have little to do with his age a
Please name another 63 year old coach getting major job offers.
there are all of 2 coaches Miles' age at a p5 program
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more to do with the reputation he accrued here of being an egregious underachieve
Holy shite. This is utter fricking ignorance. Please explain how having 1 of the best tenures in SEC HISTORY is egregious underachievement. People like you realy dont follow other programs what so ever.
Please enlighten me to all these coaches with a better 11 year stretch than miles. Maybe 4 coaches.
You have no clue what Miles reputation is among AD's.
What's fact is that miles went to a shite Oklahoma State program and turned them into a respectable program.
Whats fact is that he was more successful than his predecessor at every stop.
Youre using your opinion of miles and passing it off as fact.
If Miles was such a shite coach how did he accomplish this?
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Oklahoma state wins before miles
89-4 wins
1990-4 wins
1991-0 wins
1992- 4 wins
1993- 3 wins
1994- 3 wins
1995- 4 wins
1996- 5 wins
1997-8 wins
1998-5 wins
1999-5 wins
2000-3 wins
Oklahoma State with miles
2001-4 wins
2002-8 wins
2003-9 wins
2004-7 wins
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All your little "facts" that you boast in are overshadowed by this one fact: Les has a well earned reputation of underachieving
You have no idea what reputation miles has among ad's.
Youre using your opinion of miles underachieving and acting like you have any contact with athletic directors.
If miles underachieved at lsu then every coach in lsu history has underachieved.
Miles tenure at lsu
7th best win %in sec history
#1 ooc win % in sec history
#1 win % in lsu history
As many top 5 finishes as Saban, Mac, andDietzel combined.
During his tenure at lsu no program beat more ranked teams.
During his tenure no program was ranked in the top 25 more weeks.
He has the most top 25, top 20, top 15, top 10 and top 5 finishes in lsu history.
He achieved the above numbers while coachingin the most dominant era of sec football ever.
Stop being the moron that thinks his opinion is a fact. You have no fricking clue what miles' reputation is amongst AD's.
Being out of work for 5 months doesnt equal being a bad coach.
His age doesnt matter? Then show me all these 63 year old coaches getting major offers.
Please explain how 1 of the 5 best resumes of the last 11 years is underachieving.
How is the best tenure in our entire history underachieving.
If you want to say Miles underacieved in 2014&2015 then fine but to label his tenure at lsu as an underachievement is just ignorant.
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:20 am to AlwysATgr
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Saban, Belichick, and Carroll are all older than Les. Teams would be lining up to hire them if they were available. Spurrier was 60 in his first season at SC.
Thanks for proving my point. You have to be best coaches in cfb or the nfl to get a job offer at a major program at 63. Ive never once claimed that miles is one of the best.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:22 am to dukke v
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Facts right there........
Only if youre dumb enough to think a message board poster on here has contact with multiple ADs and knows miles' reputation.
Facts show he was the most successful coach in lsu history and was more successful than his predecessor at every stop. Those are facts.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:28 am to sicboy
You could prob take about 100+ other schools, do the same thing and see that teams struggle to find QBs. NFL teams, with all the money, can't even find one.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:30 am to LSU Patrick
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Mett doesn;t count IMO. Richt get's credit for signing him. Les get's credit for getting lucky and realizing the charges were stupid.
1 spring at UGA. 3 years at LSU.
Or the reason Richt got him was his fricking mom was his assistant and the guy grew up rt next to Athens.
That would be like Coach O losing someone from baton rouge... Oh wait.
This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 11:32 am
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:34 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Flynn , JRuss, lee and mett all got better under miles.
5th year senior who was a one year starter. Try again.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:39 am to dgnx6
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You could prob take about 100+ other schools, do the same thing and see that teams struggle to find QBs. NFL teams, with all the money, can't even find one.
Exactly. Its clear that 95% of lsu posters on here dont follow other teams. You still have posters on here that actually believe lsu is as talented as bama.
Im just done posting about miles. If there is portion of the fan base that wants to shite on our most successful coach ever then fine. I wont get into another miles discussion again, because its clear they think their opinions outweigh facts.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:42 am to RB10
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5th year senior who was a one year starter. Try again
You clearly must not have paid attention to flynn before 07. He got better at lsu. Sorry try again, little guy
Posted on 2/14/17 at 12:07 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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You clearly must not have paid attention to flynn before 07. He got better at lsu. Sorry try again, little guy
Based on what? His one start in 2005 vs. Miami? Or could you discern how good he was from the 30 total passes he threw as a redshirt freshman and junior?
You're losing your grip here.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 12:07 pm to sicboy
Posted on 2/14/17 at 12:39 pm to RB10
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Based on what? His one start in 2005 vs. Miami? Or could you discern how good he was from the 30 total passes he threw as a redshirt freshman and junior?
You're losing your grip here.
Ha ha. Says the guy that thinks Matt Flynn didnt get better during his time at lsu.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 12:41 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Ha ha. Says the guy that thinks Matt Flynn didnt get better during his time at lsu
I never said he didn't. You're in here spewing shite about "facts", but you have no proof that Flynn got any better in his 2 years with Miles. You only have assumptions.
So, again, you're losing your grip here. It's time to give it up.
This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 2/14/17 at 1:02 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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There are 2 qbs that made a nfl roster on that list.
As QBs? Which two? Or, rather, which one besides Mett?
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Wanna guess how many hc had 2 nfl qbs in 11 years?
I don't really care. I'd much rather know how many head coaches had more than three QBs play their entire careers in a 12-year span. Or how many managed not to rank in the triple digits in passing multiple times in a few year period. Or how many managed to sign more eventual NFL players than any other school except Alabama but somehow couldn't finish in the top ten OR play in a top tier bowl even once in five years.
This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 2/14/17 at 1:03 pm to RB10
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never said he didn't. You're in here spewing shite about "facts", but you have no proof that Flynn got any better in his 2 years with Miles. You only have assumptions.
Assumptions. Wait you think its an assumption Flynn got better from 04-07? Holy shite.
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, again, you're losing your grip here. It's time to give it up.
Im losing my grip only if youre a dumbass. Its ignorant as frick to think flynn didnt improve from 2005-2007. But hey youre ignorant as frick. So....
Posted on 2/14/17 at 1:07 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Im just done posting about miles
That day will never come. There are some people who just get so obsessed with something that they are literally incapable of letting it go. For you, that something is Les Miles.
He inherited an elite team, had a good run for a few years and then couldn't sustain it because he couldn't adjust to how the game was changing. It happens. It's over.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 1:08 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Assumptions. Wait you think its an assumption Flynn got better from 04-07? Holy shite.
Unless you have proof, that's exactly what it is. Your opinion is not a fact. Sorry.
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Im losing my grip only if youre a dumbass. Its ignorant as frick to think flynn didnt improve from 2005-2007. But hey youre ignorant as frick. So....
So, you're assuming. Got it. Thanks.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 1:10 pm to dgnx6
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You could prob take about 100+ other schools, do the same thing and see that teams struggle to find QBs.
That list isn't "struggling". That list is beyond pathetic. There is no way in hell there are 100 FBS schools who have a track record that bad.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 1:10 pm to Nuts4LSU
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Or how many managed to sign more eventual NFL players than any other school except Alabama but somehow couldn't finish in the top ten OR play in a top tier bowl even once in five years.
So now the national title game isnt a top tier bowl? Thats 5 years.
Miles was fired because of his Also you ned to brush up on our last 2 nfl draft classes. 6 different sec programs have had as many or more players drafted in the nfl as lsu.
Youre one of those posters that thinks there are all these coaches that can not only recruit at an elite level but also coach at an elite level.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 1:12 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Please name another 63 year old coach getting major job offers.
How many are actively looking? And how many can whip out a resume comparable to his? If Les has the sterling resume you assert that he has then his age isn't a deal breaker.
What overshadows all that Les accomplished is his legacy of non-accomplishment.
In all of your modelling with facts you ignore this FACTor - expectations. Fans expected more from Les (and not just Tiger fans) and for good reason. It's what's not on his resume that's the hang up.
BTW, since you discredit my opinion on ignorance of AD's thinking, why are you so hesitant to share the results from all the interviews you've conducted with them?
Posted on 2/14/17 at 1:12 pm to Nuts4LSU
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That list isn't "struggling". That list is beyond pathetic. There is no way in hell there are 100 FBS schools who have a track record that bad.
Yep. You clearly dont pay attention to other programs.
We had decent qb play in 06,07,09,2011,2013.
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