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re: Link to Jeremy Hill Fight Video

Posted on 7/13/13 at 2:30 pm to
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 7/13/13 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

She thinks the big boy just got "laid out" with a punch he could of avoided


You don't turn your back on a fight you are engaged in and you don't walk away from that fight as if you are on a Sunday afternoon walk around your neighborhood.

We don't know anything about the fight but what we see on a 15 second cell cam clip.

There is a good reason most of us avoid bar room brawls and that reason is there are no rules of engagement.

Hill did wrong to engage in the fight, but he did put himself into the dudes field of vision.

Some act like he needed to wave a flag in the dudes face and yell out here it comes. That doesn't happen in parking lot brawls.
Posted by tigergirl26
Member since Jan 2013
1873 posts
Posted on 7/13/13 at 2:31 pm to
You're funny.

Why I'm saying "if" is because I don't have a son, but "if" I did, that's exactly what I would tell him to do. In regards to the previous Hill matter, it was stupid period. He should not have done that at all. I'm not defending what he did at all. As I said, it's not left up to me what happens to him. All I'm doing now is giving my opinion of what I think might happen to him. I just hope that he can learn from this and move forward. That's all I'm saying. The reason why I was upset at what you said is the assumption you made about me condoning someone being sucker punched if you already know what's on my mind. I don't know you or anything about you, nor do you know me.

I apologize for calling you an arse but at the same time I'm trying to have a respectful and honest discussion about this. Not trying to piss anyone off, but please don't make assumptions about me, because you don't know anything about me. That's all I ask.
Posted by CaliforniaTiger
The Land of Fruits and Nuts
Member since Dec 2007
5327 posts
Posted on 7/13/13 at 2:34 pm to
Well, I use to like him, but what a low life!
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
40386 posts
Posted on 7/13/13 at 2:34 pm to
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because you don't know anything about me. That's all I ask.



don't worry.....I plan on not asking you anything else from here on out.
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
8206 posts
Posted on 7/13/13 at 2:36 pm to
I dont care what preceded the video.
He ran from behind, circled to get a side angle and launched.

Ambush.
Dude may been drunk. Dude may have been dazed from a previous altercation. May have been alert and ready to rock.

Don't care.
That strategy of attack is an ambush and it's nothing to be proud of or respected.

Never did that in a bar fight , by I've had it done to me.
It's a punk arse move, in my opinion.

You can differ, that's fine with me.
Posted by tigergirl26
Member since Jan 2013
1873 posts
Posted on 7/13/13 at 2:36 pm to
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In your efforts to be non-judgmental you played down the cowardly, ambush style attack.

I don't think anyone disagrees with the common sense stuff you posted in this thread.


Not trying to downplay it at all. I already said it was an immature thing to do period. It should not have happened period. Just because I didn't use the word cowardly doesn't mean I don't think it was still stupid and pointless.
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
8206 posts
Posted on 7/13/13 at 2:41 pm to
You specifically addressed the use of the word cowardly and how you didn't see it that way.

That's fine.

I think ambushing someone with a punch is a notch above immature. I think cowardly is a good descriptor.
You don't because you are trying really hard to be no -judgmental and that word just conveys too much character indictment for you.
I am comfortable making a judgment here.

You are not.
That's fine. The world goes on.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60663 posts
Posted on 7/13/13 at 2:44 pm to
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what was that?


Idk

What I'm saying is his involvement in anything before the video was taken could only be negative for Hill.

I don't understand why everybody is so concerned with what happens prior to be footage, unless they are trying to make it worse for Hill.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
40386 posts
Posted on 7/13/13 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

Hill did wrong to engage in the fight, but he did put himself into the dudes field of vision. Some act like he needed to wave a flag in the dudes face and yell out here it comes. That doesn't happen in parking lot brawls.



Uhhh, please look at the ten second mark...

Get back to me after you see the guy, wobbly getting up, FACING ANOTHER guy that just knocked him down. He did in fact put himself in the guy's field of vision....just happens to be his peripheral vision which does not a fair fight make....especially when it's three on one, at that point.

Go watch it and ask if you'd be perfectly fine with getting blind sided like that.



Groupee, you are in fact right, NEVER turn your back on a guy you're fighting.... He didn't because he was facing the guy that just knocked him down.....not expecting a punch from ANOTHER guy on his 9 oclock.
This post was edited on 7/13/13 at 2:47 pm
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61434 posts
Posted on 7/13/13 at 2:45 pm to
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Just because I didn't use the word cowardly doesn't mean I don't think it was still stupid and pointless.


He jumped in on a guy. A guy that didn't even appear to know he was fighting Hill. No different than me just punching some random dude, and doing that is pretty much a coward move.

The fact that he did it is almost enough to know he is a pure punk, the fact that he celebrated it is validation.

He should be put in prison for violating his parole, on the Brightside maybe in a few years we can have a post about him getting out on parole for some other sentence. Like Cecil part 2. We will be fine.

I am not a dummy, he will play, he will play pretty well, and I will be glad if he scores the winning touchdown against Bama....but he is still a punk.
This post was edited on 7/13/13 at 2:47 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60663 posts
Posted on 7/13/13 at 2:52 pm to
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and that reason is there are no rules of engagement


Only if you are savage trash.

Take the purple and gold glasses off, Hill was acting like a thug. He sneaked that guy and it was a bitch move.
Posted by tigergirl26
Member since Jan 2013
1873 posts
Posted on 7/13/13 at 2:52 pm to
The comment you're commenting about pretty much sums up that whole situation. It was stupid and pointless. Well by your definition everyone who gets into a fight is a punk. I don't call people names or refer to them as a "punk" or "thug" as some people have called him, but I have not denied that his actions were extremely stupid and should not be tolerated. That's why I said before that whatever CLM decides to do will still be okay with me because he would have done what he thought would be in the best interest of his team moving forward.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216458 posts
Posted on 7/13/13 at 2:54 pm to
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Hill was acting like a thug. He sneaked that guy and it was a bitch move.


Gotta agree with this............

But twenty years ago this same thing happened somewhere. Just no phone cameras were around back then............... Shame....
Posted by tigergirl26
Member since Jan 2013
1873 posts
Posted on 7/13/13 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

But twenty years ago this same thing happened somewhere. Just no phone cameras were around back then............... Shame....


I agree. This is not the first time it's happened and unfortunately won't be the last. You would think that with camera phones and social media, these players would know not to do these things because there is always someone around ready to record you and post it online. That's when you have to be very mindful of what you do no matter where you are.
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
46144 posts
Posted on 7/13/13 at 3:06 pm to
Guess I'm the only one who thinks Hill had no dog in the fight until his boy in the orange shorts came to him asking for help to KO the guy.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216458 posts
Posted on 7/13/13 at 3:12 pm to
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That's when you have to be very mindful of what you do no matter where you are.


YUP//////// Totally on Hill for this........ He should know better. BUT WHY DOESN'T HE???????????????
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19643 posts
Posted on 7/13/13 at 3:18 pm to
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There is a good reason most of us avoid bar room brawls and that reason is there are no rules of engagement.


Don't waste your time. These guys know everything and will just mock you for pointing out reality. They keep acting like fights are all governed by the marquis of queensbury rules. You and I point out its common and they say Hill is some savage. No way we will agree.
Posted by tigergirl26
Member since Jan 2013
1873 posts
Posted on 7/13/13 at 3:19 pm to
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YUP//////// Totally on Hill for this........ He should know better. BUT WHY DOESN'T HE???????????????


Can't answer that. I don't know. You could ask the same question to other athletes who get involved in situations such as this. Sometimes people just don't think before they act. They often don't think about the consequences of their actions until it's too late.
Posted by Jakeyura
Belle Chasse, La / Gulf Shores, Al
Member since Nov 2012
1076 posts
Posted on 7/13/13 at 3:30 pm to
Who's the piece of shite that hit him in the back of the head? Hill hit him leave it at that and let them do there thing. And I can't believe hill dapped the guy off after that piece of shite pussy punched the guy in the back of the head
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61434 posts
Posted on 7/13/13 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

Well by your definition everyone who gets into a fight is a punk.


WTF, no Hill wasn't engaged in the fight until all the heavy lifting was over. Are basically all fights stupid and pointless, yes. But this video shows him sneak up behind, pull slightly infront and shamelessly bash a guy. That wasn't a fight, fights are stupid. That was an attack, and attacks on unaware folks are the actions of punks.
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