re: Link to Jeremy Hill Fight Video

You're right my comprehension skills aren't the best. What I took from his comments was that fights exactly like this happen all the time. Does that excuse anyone's actions when douchebags throw cheap shots? NO.

But when I frequented college bars, if one of my friends got in a fight, I knew if I was standing on the outside I had to be prepared for someone not involved to come at me. That was the risk I took by hanging around.

And I'm pretty sure that was the point he was trying to make.

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Whatever risk the dude/douchebag took on by being in a bar fight did not encompass or excuse Hill coming by and sucker punching him. It's totally irrelevant here.

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Agree to disagree. Of course Hill was out of line. Ultimately, that's the bottom line from an LSU perspective. Now we will find out in August what the courts think regarding his probation.

If the judge does not revoke probation and nothing changes, I'm okay with whatever Miles decides as I'm sure he knows much more about this situation and all other off the field situations involving JHill than I do.

My opinion, 4 games and some extra workouts with Moffit should be plenty punishment.

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It was a sucker punch!

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No, it wasn't.

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Les, get this under control and clean up your players!

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LSU has had less arrest in the last three years than 80% or more of the SEC.

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No, it wasn't.

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Wrong.

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While I agree that would be more likely, with the Kent St being #3 and Auburn at home being #4 I think Miles will try to save a little face especially since the video is now being run by ESPN.

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I'll bet he's back by Auburn.

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I'll bet he's back by Auburn.

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Miles will probably never set a number to it. If the RB's are struggling we see him for Auburn.

I guess I should've started with that but since I have some confidence in the other guys I don't they'll struggle.

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Question to all: are there any examples of players, let's focus on LSU players, having multiple criminal convictions and turning over a new leaf?

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First, you seem to be making sweeping generalizations from a very small data set by limiting this to LSU players. In addition, you seem to be implying that people never change. Based on this it seems to be your contention that as Hill will inevitably screw up again, we should boot him off the team now to avoid dealing with that. This seems to be the gist of your argument (and please correct me if this isn't true).

While most people may not change, there are some that do. And though there may not be an example in LSU football (yet), there are plenty of instances in other parts of life. While Hill made a mistake (and a stupid one at that), I don't feel that his mistake warrants him being kicked off the team based on how players have been treated in the past. Consequently, I prefer to give him the chance to redeem himself rather than condemn him for acts he has not yet done (even if redemption seems unlikely). So at this point I feel a suspension is warranted (to hopefully make him realize how close he was to destroying his life), but it doesn't seem fair to punish him for things he has not yet done. I especially see no reason to do this to protect the team as we will be using multiple running backs from the beginning (meaning losing one won't disrupt a game plan) and as we have dealt with such distractions rather well in the past.

I would just like to add that I've done some stupid things in my life (particularly when I was younger) that could have completely derailed my life. I was given an extra chance (okay, perhaps a few extra chances) and have made it (or them) count.

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Yes and therefore not a true sucker punch.

Hill was within the other dudes field of vision, Hill even went into a wind up motion, and seconds before the guy was fighting.

That's not what I would call a sucker punch.

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This might be the biggest load of bullshite I have read so far in this thread. Splitting hairs over what the textbook definition of a sucker punch is? The dude was staggering away, not provoking anyone, and Hill runs up on him THUG style and tries to waylay him. I don't care if it is defined as a sucker punch or not. It was stupid, trashy, and ignorant.

Seemed pretty legit dickhead sucker punch face