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re: Let's say Miles keeps the offense the same.
Posted on 2/10/16 at 12:02 pm to jtran1988
Posted on 2/10/16 at 12:02 pm to jtran1988
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LOL brah, Bama's OJ Howard (TE) had 5 catches, 202 receiving yards, 2 TDs in the NC against Clemson. He had the most yards receiving yards in the game. Kiffin saw holes in the Clemson D and exploited them.. proper film study and game planning should show that spread offenses have more success against Bama. I really don't know why Miles hasn't sunk that in his head yet. He really tries to hammer in a square peg into a triangle hole.
I agree so much with this all this I have a weird boner now
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Posted on 2/10/16 at 12:13 pm to Mayhawman
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Down 7pts vs Arky, first 2 drives R/P selection 1/5
LSU R/P selection 5/7 for 1st qtr (still down 7pts)
Down 3pts vs OM, first 2 drives R/P selection 6/7
so your assertion is that, had we not have thrown so much (according to you)....we would have won?
Posted on 2/10/16 at 12:34 pm to Tigahbader
We threw so much because two critical pieces to the power set that we like to run (Gordon and Moore) weren't available for the game, so we had to go away from Fournette and what had been working, and put those games in the hands of Harris and his WRs.
We win games by playing lights out defense, wearing teams down on offense, and hitting the big plays when they present themselves. Period.
Throwing 40+ times per game and neutralizing Fournette is not a recipe for success.
We win games by playing lights out defense, wearing teams down on offense, and hitting the big plays when they present themselves. Period.
Throwing 40+ times per game and neutralizing Fournette is not a recipe for success.
Posted on 2/10/16 at 1:31 pm to Tigahbader
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so your assertion is that, had we not have thrown so much (according to you)....we would have won?
My assertion is ascertaining the fact that LSU came out throwing, not just playing catch up as the re-writers of history claim.
Although now that you've mentioned it, I recall sacks(+fumble?), incompletions, and INTs killed more than a few of the drives.
The D was pretty porous to try it, but who knows if opponent D could've been worn down by 4th with more run calls.
Posted on 2/10/16 at 2:41 pm to chilge1
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We win games by playing lights out defense, wearing teams down on offense, and hitting the big plays when they present themselves. Period.
exactly. In the end it is not about winning or losing but about playing LSU style football. LSU football is about playing hard nosed down and dirty football. Winning the battle in the trenches and imposing our will on our opponents. Win or lose the opponent is going to know they were in a tough battle. It's an iconic style of real man football that is known around the country as LSU style football.
Posted on 2/10/16 at 2:49 pm to chilge1
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Throwing 40+ times per game and neutralizing Fournette is not a recipe for success.
once again I agree with you. LSU style football is not about being a gimmicky HUNH air raid spread style that the fans are clamoring for and who is to say if Fournette could even run or catch the ball out of such a type offense. Benching Fournette is not a recipe for success.
Posted on 2/10/16 at 2:54 pm to Mayhawman
Its not about scheme or play selection by quarter or how many passes in a game. The thing that makes this offense SO predictable is the play selection by down/distance. In 2015, on 1st down, LSU ran the ball 71%. On 2nd down, it actually went up to 72%. On 3rd, they ran the ball only 38%. 70+% is a very big tendency.
For those of you comparing to Bama, there were in the low 60's on 1st and low 50's on 2nd down and high 40's on 3rd down.
Also, for those saying this is a pro-style offense. I seriously doubt there are Pro teams running the ball 70+% on 1st AND 2nd down.
Rushing Stats
Passing Stats
For those of you comparing to Bama, there were in the low 60's on 1st and low 50's on 2nd down and high 40's on 3rd down.
Also, for those saying this is a pro-style offense. I seriously doubt there are Pro teams running the ball 70+% on 1st AND 2nd down.
Rushing Stats
Passing Stats
Posted on 2/10/16 at 3:16 pm to Brazos
First, I do think they'll open up the passing game a bit but nothing drastic. Say 3-5 more throws per game, mostly on first down play-action. When you have home-run threats like Fournette and Guice in the backfield you can afford to have to manage a few 2nd and longs per contest. In reality, the key is to be more efficient in the passing game; more accuracy from the QB and fewer drops and wrong routes by the receivers. Also believe the 3 freshman who played large roles on the OL last season will be much improved as pass-blockers which will also enhance execution. Improve your overall completion percentage anywhere in the neighborhood of 60%, which is certainly doable, and this LSU offense could set records for YPG and scoring with the plethora of superb play-makers. 
Posted on 2/10/16 at 5:02 pm to Tiger Khan
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The last time LSU won in 07 they fielded a balance offense -- almost 1 to 1 passing to run ratio.
Yeah, 1 to 1 ratio - give or take 170 rushing plays.
2007 612 rushes for 2998 yard and 442 pass attempts with 256 completions for 3154 yards (58% run/42% pass ratio).
More balanced offense is not IMO same number of rushing and pass plays, but yardage accumulated being in a more 50/50 balance.
Posted on 2/10/16 at 5:11 pm to Brazos
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After reading that interview a few days ago it seems as though Miles really believes that without the key injuries his offense is completely serviceable. Does anyone think if we stay completely healthy on offense and hit a few more passes a game that we still pose a threat to win the SEC and maybe it all with the same scheme?
Absolutely. People are so black and white on issues. They don't realize that it's not all bad. Given good QB play, and the allowing of our passing game to spread it's wings, this team absolutely could compete for a NC.
Posted on 2/10/16 at 5:53 pm to moneyg
...uh...he wont change!
Posted on 2/10/16 at 6:11 pm to cheeznet
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In 2015, on 1st down, LSU ran the ball 71%. On 2nd down, it actually went up to 72%.
Question. How many times did rushing on 1st and 2nd down result in either a touchdown or a new set of downs?
Because we averaged over 6 ypc on the season.
Posted on 2/10/16 at 6:13 pm to chilge1
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We win games by playing lights out defense, wearing teams down on offense, and hitting the big plays when they present themselves. Period.
Ok.... But that isn't working against Ole Miss, Arkie, and Bama..... FACT................
Posted on 2/10/16 at 6:22 pm to dukke v
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We win games by playing lights out defense
well to be fair, we haven't really done this in a few years
Posted on 2/10/16 at 6:26 pm to dukke v
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Ok.... But that isn't working against Ole Miss, Arkie, and Bama
2005 - 3-0
2006 - 3-0
2007 - 2-1
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2008 - 0-3
2009 - 1-2
2010 - 2-1, Defensive Yards per Play - 4.86, Offensive 5.32
2011 - 3-1*, Defensive Yards per Play - 4.08, Offensive 5.71
2012 - 2-1, Defensive Yards per Play - 4.46, Offensive 5.51
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2013 - 1-2, Defensive Yards per Play - 5.08, Offensive 6.94
2014 - 1-2, Defensive Yards per Play - 4.87, Offensive 5.62
2015 - 0-3, Defensive Yards er Play - 5.17, Offensive 6.70
From 2010-12, we went 7-3* against those three teams, while from 2013-15, we went 2-7 against those teams. The offense actually improved while the defense regressed. So which side of the ball would you say matters more in terms of being able to get out with a win?
Posted on 2/10/16 at 9:44 pm to chilge1
quote:I've posted a few times our vs SEC O rank is much better than D rank, but all it returns is Miles sucks, blah blah.
So which side of the ball would you say matters more in terms of being able to get out with a win?
Posted on 2/10/16 at 10:06 pm to Brazos
LSU will be the same LSU. Fournette can not be the center of a team. He's great yet did not even make it to the Heisman voting. Nick Saban knows how to utilize all that talent. Miles doesn't plan and simple. Miles is a good person but outdated for mordern day college football with a million excuses . LSU will remain average under Miles. LSU should return to old school (like Alabama) faceguard on helmet from 1978. Alabama, Ohio State, Notre Dame, USC, Texas A & M, etc. etc.SEC and all of college football is changing. [b]GET BACK TO THE OLD FACEGUARD LOOKS BEAUTIFUL ON ALABAMA WHO YOU CANNOT BEAT WITH MILES. Until LSU can finish Miles (who is a good coach) will continue to bafoon fans with the 1970"s in the 21st century college football. KEEP THINKING HE WANT! 
This post was edited on 2/10/16 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 2/10/16 at 10:09 pm to boxcar willie
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gimmicky
Quit using this word. Makes you sound like an old turd.
Posted on 2/10/16 at 11:02 pm to biglego
Was anyone even entertaining the possibility of change in offensive philosophy under Les??? If it ain't broke, don't fix it right? I think Les just believes it's a little bent.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 2:53 am to Brazos
Let's say??????
When was the last time this decade Les allowed the offense to change?? It won't ever happen.
When was the last time this decade Les allowed the offense to change?? It won't ever happen.
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