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re: Lets look at some of the losses of Coach Les Miles
Posted on 1/6/13 at 11:33 am to League Champs
Posted on 1/6/13 at 11:33 am to League Champs
"Miles believes in keeping the score close and winning in the 4th."
This is my main philosophical difference with Miles. I believe in taking calculated risks in an aggressive attempt to reach a 3-score separation whenever possible. I believe this approach inspires relentlessness and that the risks inherent in it and are outweighed by the risks inherent in playing it close to the vest.
This is my main philosophical difference with Miles. I believe in taking calculated risks in an aggressive attempt to reach a 3-score separation whenever possible. I believe this approach inspires relentlessness and that the risks inherent in it and are outweighed by the risks inherent in playing it close to the vest.
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 11:58 am to cj2002
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Why dont you point out how many games LSU has won due to miles great coaching and or play calling and clock managment.
05- ASU, on the road against top 5 undefeated Bama, Ole Miss (40 point beatdown in Oxford after struggling to a close win at home with a terrible passing game that threw the ball.only 8 times in 2004), 40 point beatdiwn of top 10 Miami
2006- 40+ point beatdowns of Arizona and Kentucky, great come from behind wins on the road against top 15 Tennessee and top 5 Arkansas
2007- 40 point beatdown of top 10 and final #3 VTech, South Carolina, 6-1 Bama on road, great call against Auburn, oh and maybe the Florida and Ohio State games??? Not to mention SECCG without starting QB or Dorsey.
2008- First road win at Auburn in a decade with great drive to win game, South Carolina on the road, Gtech in ATL by 30+, took undefeated #1 Bama to OT despite being 10 pt underdog
2009- Washington on road, UGA on road with another great drive at the end, Arkansas with great drive and clock.management the week after Ole Miss fiasco, gave #1&2 Bama and Florida all they could handle as big underdogs.
2010- Worst year on O but still won 11 games including upsetting Bama and playing national champ on the road within a TD. Smoked A&M in Cotton Bowl.
2011- Do I really need to go through the amazing blowouts of #3 Oregon at neutrak site, top 10 WVU on the road, Florida, Auburn, #3 Arkansas, #5 Georgia in ATL and oh #2 Bama huge win on the road with EVERYTHING on the line??? Probably so for you. Nothing other than 1/9 occurred that season right???
2012- 40 point beatdown on Washington, bear final #3 and Heisman winner on the road at A&M, and took Bama to the wire as huge underdog.
Is that what you were looking for??
Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:31 pm to Tiger Voodoo
Please stop. You just made my point. Almost all of those wins, yes ALMOST ALL. was do to such a great differance in talent.
Ok I doubt you will be able to understand this but I will say it anyway.
Look at the number of NFL players on this and last yrs team. Then look at the teams we played and the number of NFL players on those teams.
Alot of those games didnt matter who was the coach. When your team is stacked 3-1 you will win 90% of those games.
Now with that said miles gets all the credit for recruiting.
He just cant manage a game or the clock or a game plan
Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:44 pm to cj2002
Ooooooh, ok I gotcha.
So you're one of those, wins=talent, losses=Miles guys. Glad the two are so easily mutually exclusive to you.
Thanks for letting us know.
And I named about 10 games when we had game winning drives with great clock management against highly ranked teams with at least similar talent on the field. But you can't get over Ole Miss 09 or UT 2010.
Sucks for you.
Oh yeah, and you're also the dude that believes Miles has NOTHING to do with turning the great HS talent into NFL type talent right??
Nevermind that USC, Florida, UT, OU, Auburn, Georgia, FSU win LESS than we do with AT LEAST similar HS talent.
Ours is just DA BEST and Miles just holds them back!!!
So you're one of those, wins=talent, losses=Miles guys. Glad the two are so easily mutually exclusive to you.
Thanks for letting us know.
And I named about 10 games when we had game winning drives with great clock management against highly ranked teams with at least similar talent on the field. But you can't get over Ole Miss 09 or UT 2010.
Sucks for you.
Oh yeah, and you're also the dude that believes Miles has NOTHING to do with turning the great HS talent into NFL type talent right??
Nevermind that USC, Florida, UT, OU, Auburn, Georgia, FSU win LESS than we do with AT LEAST similar HS talent.
Ours is just DA BEST and Miles just holds them back!!!
This post was edited on 1/6/13 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:50 pm to LNCHBOX
Arrogant and stubborn are not the problems. Intelligence is. But before the loyal supporters get their backs out of whack. I do not want Les fired. Yes he is one of the better coaches we have had. He seems to be a really nice guy with ethics and integrity. Great recruiter, probably because of the virtues cited above.
But some of his game decisions? Some of them are just out and out mind boggling. Have you ever worked in an office where the big boss was well liked and admired but not because of his business smarts? Where you knew that if you had a problem it was one of his assistant's that you needed to go to because the guy was sharp and knew his stuff.
Miles needs one of those assistants to run the offense while he goes around and pats everyone on the back and asks about their family. You know like Chavis does with the defense. If he would only do that there would be a lot fewer negatigers and a lot more that were happy, happy, happy.
But some of his game decisions? Some of them are just out and out mind boggling. Have you ever worked in an office where the big boss was well liked and admired but not because of his business smarts? Where you knew that if you had a problem it was one of his assistant's that you needed to go to because the guy was sharp and knew his stuff.
Miles needs one of those assistants to run the offense while he goes around and pats everyone on the back and asks about their family. You know like Chavis does with the defense. If he would only do that there would be a lot fewer negatigers and a lot more that were happy, happy, happy.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:54 pm to LNCHBOX
Arrogant and stubborn are not the problems. Intelligence is. But before the loyal supporters get their backs out of whack. I do not want Les fired. Yes he is one of the better coaches we have had. He seems to be a really nice guy with ethics and integrity. Great recruiter, probably because of the virtues cited above.
But some of his game decisions? Some of them are just out and out mind boggling. Have you ever worked in an office where the big boss was well liked and admired but not because of his business smarts? Where you knew that if you had a problem it was one of his assistant's that you needed to go to because the guy was sharp and knew his stuff.
Miles needs one of those assistants to run the offense while he goes around and pats everyone on the back and asks about their family. You know like Chavis does with the defense. If he would only do that there would be a lot fewer negatigers and a lot more that were happy, happy, happy.
But some of his game decisions? Some of them are just out and out mind boggling. Have you ever worked in an office where the big boss was well liked and admired but not because of his business smarts? Where you knew that if you had a problem it was one of his assistant's that you needed to go to because the guy was sharp and knew his stuff.
Miles needs one of those assistants to run the offense while he goes around and pats everyone on the back and asks about their family. You know like Chavis does with the defense. If he would only do that there would be a lot fewer negatigers and a lot more that were happy, happy, happy.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 3:27 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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05- ASU, on the road against top 5 undefeated Bama, Ole Miss (40 point beatdown in Oxford after struggling to a close win at home with a terrible passing game that threw the ball.only 8 times in 2004), 40 point beatdiwn of top 10 Miami
2006- 40+ point beatdowns of Arizona and Kentucky, great come from behind wins on the road against top 15 Tennessee and top 5 Arkansas
2007- 40 point beatdown of top 10 and final #3 VTech, South Carolina, 6-1 Bama on road, great call against Auburn, oh and maybe the Florida and Ohio State games??? Not to mention SECCG without starting QB or Dorsey.
2008- First road win at Auburn in a decade with great drive to win game, South Carolina on the road, Gtech in ATL by 30+, took undefeated #1 Bama to OT despite being 10 pt underdog
2009- Washington on road, UGA on road with another great drive at the end, Arkansas with great drive and clock.management the week after Ole Miss fiasco, gave #1&2 Bama and Florida all they could handle as big underdogs.
2010- Worst year on O but still won 11 games including upsetting Bama and playing national champ on the road within a TD. Smoked A&M in Cotton Bowl.
2011- Do I really need to go through the amazing blowouts of #3 Oregon at neutrak site, top 10 WVU on the road, Florida, Auburn, #3 Arkansas, #5 Georgia in ATL and oh #2 Bama huge win on the road with EVERYTHING on the line??? Probably so for you. Nothing other than 1/9 occurred that season right???
2012- 40 point beatdown on Washington, bear final #3 and Heisman winner on the road at A&M, and took Bama to the wire as huge underdog.
Is that what you were looking for??
Thats pathetic
A&M is the #3 ranked team in the nation?? Really?? Because the BCS poll I'm looking at has them at #9. Thats why no one takes you seriously. You make up crap to pump up Miles
And why are you including close losses?????? Arent you supposed to be showing where Miles coaching was the diffrence in winning a game, because I could write a book on games where Towson, Troy St, La Teach, Ole Miss, Tenn, Miss. St, Vandy, Arky, Auburn abused Miles' coaching, but still resulted in close wins
Posted on 1/6/13 at 4:04 pm to Tom Bronco
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Intelligence is.
I love these "Intelligence" is the problem comments.
The man is running a 100 million program better than any LSU coach has run it in terms of football success, just got an extension/raise of like 35 mil on the life of his contract, and has already pocketed like 15 mil or so from two schools.
He leads the BCS/SEC in football wins since 05, but "Intelligence" is the problem with Miles.
I wonder if there is anyone on this forum whose "Intelligence" or how many there are in all of college football who has gone further with their " Intelligence" than Miles.
This post was edited on 1/6/13 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 1/6/13 at 4:27 pm to League Champs
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Thats pathetic
A&M is the #3 ranked team in the nation?? Really?? Because the BCS poll I'm looking at has them at #9. Thats why no one takes you seriously. You make up crap to pump up Miles
You call my post pathetic and only point to one obvious typo and say I make stuff up???
Of course you disregard the list of wins I posted and just focus on that one mistake.
And for the record, don't be surprised when the final polls come out and A&M finishes closer to my typo of #3 than your outdated #9 poll.
See, I'm smarter than you without even trying. I pulled Milesed you
Posted on 1/6/13 at 4:40 pm to cj2002
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Please stop. You just made my point. Almost all of those wins, yes ALMOST ALL. was do to such a great differance in talent.
and yet another that refuses to give Miles any credit. why do you think we were more talented (which is debatable) than those other teams? y'all are embarrassing yourselves
This post was edited on 1/6/13 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 1/6/13 at 4:43 pm to Tom Bronco
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Have you ever worked in an office where the big boss was well liked and admired but not because of his business smarts?
no...because 99% of the time a person does not become the "big boss" without having "business smarts"
Posted on 1/6/13 at 4:49 pm to Choctaw
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no...because 99% of the time a person does not become the "big boss" without having "business smarts"
Unless your Les Miles and fall arse backward into a goldmine teed up by Saban.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 4:53 pm to diehardfan
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Unless your Les Miles and fall arse backward into a goldmine teed up by Saban.
lucky son of a bitch
Posted on 1/6/13 at 4:55 pm to N.O. via West-Cal
quote:Big fallacy common among negatigers.
This is my main philosophical difference with Miles. I believe in taking calculated risks in an aggressive attempt to reach a 3-score separation whenever possible. I believe this approach inspires relentlessness and that the risks inherent in it and are outweighed by the risks inherent in playing it close to the vest.
4 times in the 8 years under Miles, LSU has been top 10 FBS in avg Margin of Victory vs FBS teams, and LSU is also ranked FBS top ten MoV during the BCS era.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 4:57 pm to Choctaw
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lucky son of a bitch
He'll milk mediocrity as long as he can and continue to take advantage of his situation while Sunshine Pumpers like yourself continue to applaud his performance.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 5:03 pm to N.O. via West-Cal
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This is my main philosophical difference with Miles. I believe in taking calculated risks in an aggressive attempt to reach a 3-score separation whenever possible. I believe this approach inspires relentlessness and that the risks inherent in it and are outweighed by the risks inherent in playing it close to the vest.
He coaches in the moment....you second guess
Posted on 1/6/13 at 5:05 pm to Tiger Voodoo
quote:And this is no reflection on coaching, how? But you are right, give credit where credit is due. In spite of weak coaching...
We had shitty QB play for 4 years that seriously limited what we could run on offense, and ...this year, the OL WRs limited a new QBs development.
That should be pretty clear to anyone with any understanding of football.
quote:Is it a wash? No, I don't think so. The wins say a lot. But still, there is something about how LSU has been winning of late that is very, very troubling. Too much of a struggle, too many times.
we won 41 games in that stretch.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 5:35 pm to JawjaTigah
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And this is no reflection on coaching, how? But you are right, give credit where credit is due. In spite of weak coaching...quote:
_________________________________________we won 41 games in that stretch._________________________________________
How can you say this?????
LSU had two very mediocre QBs for 4 years. MANY other coaches have collapsed and been fired under those circumstances.
LSU got better every year.
How is coaching not a factor in the upward trend???
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But still, there is something about how LSU has been winning of late that is very, very troubling. Too much of a struggle, too many times.
No disagreement there at all.
I've never said we're perfect. I just think the good far outweighs the bad and believe the coach that has gotten us over 10 wins a year for almost a decade will continue to make us better.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 5:43 pm to LNCHBOX
no need to revisit the past crappy coaching by Miles. get used to the same for 7 more years...
Posted on 1/6/13 at 5:45 pm to diehardfan
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He'll milk mediocrity as long as he can and continue to take advantage of his situation while Sunshine Pumpers like yourself continue to applaud his performance
If mediocrity is being 34-6 over the last 3 years and 85-21 over 8 years while playing for 3 SECC and winning 2 and playing for 2 NC and winning 1 during that timespan, then please LSU, stay mediocre, becasue it puts you ahead of 118 of the other 119 FBS schools and puts you damn near even to everyone's gold standard. Difference is, we get the harder opponents.
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