re: Lets look at some of the losses of Coach Les Miles

Not sure who that was directed to but what are you trying to prove/say?


Forget about your stats for a min.

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That Miles elite status is questionable because he loses more often than wins (45%) against Top 10/elite teams, and because he loses too many games that he shouldnt, due to obvious coaching blunders??

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I wouldn't say blunders but he's stubborn, like I said. So..... there it is.


You can carry on all you want but in the end, he's stubborn and like I said earlier, I don't think anyone will disagree with you.

Enough said. Give it a rest.

Arkansas was not unranked in 2010.

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You can go either way with it, but I chose to look at the time of the game because I felt it was more representative of the strength of our opponent at that time.

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Well, LSU was the 4th ranked team in the nation in 2008. Finished 7-5. Our ranking in no way refected our "correct" strength

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Well, LSU was the 4th ranked team in the nation in 2008. Finished 7-5. Our ranking in no way refected our "correct" strength

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Which is why I said some teams went up and some went down. For this reason. At the beginning of the year a loss to a ranked tenn becomes a loss to an unranked team. A win over a top 10 team becomes a win over a top 3 team. Games like #3 Arkansas are the ones that hurt the most, becasue when we beat top 5 Arkansas they drop several spots, when truth be told they were probably higher than #6 in 2011. That's why I said there is no easy way to define it. you either completely hurt yourself by lowering the ranking of the wins in the SECCG and against Ark when they were top 5. It's the whole , when you lose moves the rankings issue, but there is no good way to do it, so like I said you can go either way. It will come out to roughly the same thing and will get closer to each other as Miles continues to coach LSU.

Also, I know everyone hates the whole Saban/Miles comparison, but I think consensus throughout the country is that Saban is considered the best coach in CFB currently, so to compare his record at Bama against final top 10 BCS teams, here is the breakdown since he has been at Bama.

#1: 1-2 (.333)
#2: 1-2 (.333)
#3: 0-0
#4: 0-0
#5: 1-1 (.500)
#6: 1-1 (.500)
#7: 1-0 (1.00)
#8: 2-0 (1.00)
#9: 1-1 (.500)
#10: 0-0
Total: 8-7 (0.53 or 53%)

If this is the absolute pinnacle of CFB coaching then Miles isn't as far off as people like to lead on.

Interesting tidbits(fyi) over the tested timeframe (Miles tenure at LSU and Saban's tenure at Bama)
LSU averages 2.75 games/yr against BCS top 10
Bama averages 2.5 games/yr against BCS top 10 (game against ND excluded)

43% (9/21) of Miles losses are to teams outside the final BCS top 10
46% (6/13) of Saban's losses are to teams outside the final BCS top 10



If it's tl;dr then ok. I was just curious how CLM stacked up to the "gold standard" of CFB coaches and while I knew beforehand he wasn't going to have as nice of numbers due to being 3-4 head to head and having FLorida on the schedule every year during Tebow, I was actually kinda shocked it was as close as it was. I would've thought Saban was 75% against top 10 teams based on how much praise he gets and how much CLM gets poopoo'd on.


Take from this what you want.

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And dismissing the heir to the QB position at that time had nothing to do with it, right?

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Don't worry they all think Saban signed RP and Miles ruined him.

This is the absolute greatest post I have ever read on tigerdroppings.

You have to compare Miles to Saban because, unfortunately for him, literally NO ONE else is on his level (or vice versa, whatever) when it comes to results.

For whatever reason, multiple championships I suppose , Saban is seen as perfect. When we backed into the BCS in 07, it was because Miles is the luckiest sob ever. When they back into the championship last year, over a more deserving OSU imo, no said anything about it. When they lose again at home to a team we shut down on the road and somehow find themselves with a chance to go to the BCS no one bats an eyelash.
When speaking from a national perspective Alabama is considered the defense, better than ours if only by a hair. That would mean to me in their losses, poor offensive performance must have led to their downfall.
2010 Auburn they led by 20 before going scoreless in the 2nd half and losing by one.
I know no one here has forgotten that they scored 6 (six!!!) points in an entire game last year.
This year vs TAMU he called 3 straight passes inside the 5 and then, proving his teams lack of discipline, they were called for offsides on a pivotal 4th down play when they were about to get the ball back.

I said all that to say this. In any game one bounce of the ball ('10 Florida), One incomplete pass ('12 Clemson), or one coaching mistake (multiple examples available ) could be the difference in a win or loss. You don't get invited in every time you step to the doorway.

This is the Golden age of LSU football, like it or not. No one is forcing you to root for LSU. For those of us that still enjoy it I say to the so called negatigers: stop ruining it for the rest of us...

I really hope Les Miles leaves and Joe Alleva hires Curley Hallman back. That will surely weed out some of the myopia from the LSU fan base.

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Go through the wins as well douche.

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