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Let's get realistic: best and worst case scenerios for Bowl Game
Posted on 11/26/12 at 9:50 am
Posted on 11/26/12 at 9:50 am
Alright, I'm trying to get caught up on this stuff and thought I'd lay it all out. The biggest domino to fall, potentially, IMO is the issue of Kent State (visiting Tiger Stadium next year) going to the BCS by finishing in the top 16 and ahead of Big East Champ or ACC (Ga Tech) and pushing other teams down.
We have in official "order" five possibilities, with the most likely possibility being the Chick-Fil-A Bowl:
1. Capital One Bowl (SEC No. 2) vs. Big 10 No. 2
Georgia/Alabama is most often picked for this game and the Big 10 is awful with Michigan the common choice and possibly Northwestern. Should Wisconsin upset Nebraska, the Huskers could call to Cap One, bumping down the Big 10 order. However, I've also read the Cap One does not want NU since they were there last year. I'm guessing the SEC CG loser would have to lose in humiliating fashion for LSU to have a chance.
For LSU a tweet was sent out yesterday from the bowl: "@krisbrauner Michigan/Alabama rematch not likely; Michigan/LSU definitely possible"
Best Case: vs. No. 12 Nebraska
Worst Case: vs. No. 19 Michigan or No. 22 Northwestern.
2. Cotton Bowl (SEC, typically SEC West) vs. Big 12 No. 2
Texas A&M is common pick, however Dallas Morning News projects LSU. Opponents could be K-State/Oklahoma if either is passed by BCS or No. 23 Oklahoma State, or Texas.
I really depends on if the Big 12 gets two teams. Oklahoma would likely need to lose to TCU this week to slide. I'd like to be optimistic in thinking that the Capital One Bowl will want a Heisman-winning JFF happy to be in a new place instead of a beat down Georgia team unhappy to be there, and Texas politics will prevent at UT/A&M rematch, but all speculation. Of course LSU was just there and is going back again in August.
Best Case: LSU vs. No. 11 Oklahoma/No. 6 K-State
Worst Case: LSU vs. 23 Oklahoma State and really no loser here with Texas in the mix, although unranked.
2. Outback Bowl (SEC, typically SEC East) vs. Big 10 No. 3
Game typically goes to Eastern Division team. Since 1998, only one West Team (Auburn in 2009 game) has been selected. South Carolina is a common projection to play against No. 22. Northwestern. ESPN.com projects LSU to play in this game. Michigan could fall, and Wisconsin could also end up here. LSU played only once in this bowl, the 1989 game, so maybe they want someone fresh.
Best Case: LSU vs. No. 12 Nebraska or No 19 Michigan
Worst Case: LSU vs. No. 22 Northwestern or unranked Wisconsin
4. Chick-Fil-A Bowl (SEC No. 5) vs. ACC No. 2
We all know this is the common pick and is most often projected to go against ACC No. 2, projected as No. 14 Clemson. It is possible that if No. 13 FSU loses to 6-6 Georgia Tech, they could slide to CFA bowl. North Carolina and Miami are no eligible for post season, so ACC is even weaker than usual.
However, Scout projects a crazy scenario where Oklahoma losing could open the door for Clemson to get in as an at large BCS team, thus weakening the ACC further and giving LSU a huge drop off in opponents. LINK
Best Case: LSU vs. No. 14 Clemson or No. 15 FSU (after devastating ACC CG loss)
Worst Case: LSU vs. Unranked VaTech (going to Atl. to open season), Unranked NC State (just fired coach) or unranked Duke.
5. Gator (SEC 6) vs. Big 10 4/5It would seem highly unlikely LSU would fall this far, but most projections have Wisconsin as the opponent. Should Wisconsin win the B1G, maybe Northwestern would fall to this spot.
Best Case: LSU vs. No. 22 Northwestern
Worst Case: LSU vs. unranked Wisconsin (but a traditional power)
I'm not happy, but short of Oklahoma/K-State in Cotton or Nebraska in Cap One, which is unlikely, Clemson is not a bad matchup. If for some reason, Clemson goes to the BCS and we go to CFA, it's not good at all.
We have in official "order" five possibilities, with the most likely possibility being the Chick-Fil-A Bowl:
1. Capital One Bowl (SEC No. 2) vs. Big 10 No. 2
Georgia/Alabama is most often picked for this game and the Big 10 is awful with Michigan the common choice and possibly Northwestern. Should Wisconsin upset Nebraska, the Huskers could call to Cap One, bumping down the Big 10 order. However, I've also read the Cap One does not want NU since they were there last year. I'm guessing the SEC CG loser would have to lose in humiliating fashion for LSU to have a chance.
For LSU a tweet was sent out yesterday from the bowl: "@krisbrauner Michigan/Alabama rematch not likely; Michigan/LSU definitely possible"
Best Case: vs. No. 12 Nebraska
Worst Case: vs. No. 19 Michigan or No. 22 Northwestern.
2. Cotton Bowl (SEC, typically SEC West) vs. Big 12 No. 2
Texas A&M is common pick, however Dallas Morning News projects LSU. Opponents could be K-State/Oklahoma if either is passed by BCS or No. 23 Oklahoma State, or Texas.
I really depends on if the Big 12 gets two teams. Oklahoma would likely need to lose to TCU this week to slide. I'd like to be optimistic in thinking that the Capital One Bowl will want a Heisman-winning JFF happy to be in a new place instead of a beat down Georgia team unhappy to be there, and Texas politics will prevent at UT/A&M rematch, but all speculation. Of course LSU was just there and is going back again in August.
Best Case: LSU vs. No. 11 Oklahoma/No. 6 K-State
Worst Case: LSU vs. 23 Oklahoma State and really no loser here with Texas in the mix, although unranked.
2. Outback Bowl (SEC, typically SEC East) vs. Big 10 No. 3
Game typically goes to Eastern Division team. Since 1998, only one West Team (Auburn in 2009 game) has been selected. South Carolina is a common projection to play against No. 22. Northwestern. ESPN.com projects LSU to play in this game. Michigan could fall, and Wisconsin could also end up here. LSU played only once in this bowl, the 1989 game, so maybe they want someone fresh.
Best Case: LSU vs. No. 12 Nebraska or No 19 Michigan
Worst Case: LSU vs. No. 22 Northwestern or unranked Wisconsin
4. Chick-Fil-A Bowl (SEC No. 5) vs. ACC No. 2
We all know this is the common pick and is most often projected to go against ACC No. 2, projected as No. 14 Clemson. It is possible that if No. 13 FSU loses to 6-6 Georgia Tech, they could slide to CFA bowl. North Carolina and Miami are no eligible for post season, so ACC is even weaker than usual.
However, Scout projects a crazy scenario where Oklahoma losing could open the door for Clemson to get in as an at large BCS team, thus weakening the ACC further and giving LSU a huge drop off in opponents. LINK
Best Case: LSU vs. No. 14 Clemson or No. 15 FSU (after devastating ACC CG loss)
Worst Case: LSU vs. Unranked VaTech (going to Atl. to open season), Unranked NC State (just fired coach) or unranked Duke.
5. Gator (SEC 6) vs. Big 10 4/5It would seem highly unlikely LSU would fall this far, but most projections have Wisconsin as the opponent. Should Wisconsin win the B1G, maybe Northwestern would fall to this spot.
Best Case: LSU vs. No. 22 Northwestern
Worst Case: LSU vs. unranked Wisconsin (but a traditional power)
I'm not happy, but short of Oklahoma/K-State in Cotton or Nebraska in Cap One, which is unlikely, Clemson is not a bad matchup. If for some reason, Clemson goes to the BCS and we go to CFA, it's not good at all.
This post was edited on 11/26/12 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 11/26/12 at 9:52 am to Ghostfacedistiller
I wouldn't slit my wrists (like some of the morons on here) over any of those. Not wild about Northwestern though.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 9:58 am to Ghostfacedistiller
Best case...for Tiger fans in Texas is the Cotton Bowl where we house the Longhorns by 30....
Worst case is any non New Years Day or later bowl...
ETA: if UTexas is the Big XII team in the Cotton Bowl, TAMU will NOT be the SEC team...
too much politics involved...read my post last night on the issue...
Worst case is any non New Years Day or later bowl...
ETA: if UTexas is the Big XII team in the Cotton Bowl, TAMU will NOT be the SEC team...
too much politics involved...read my post last night on the issue...
This post was edited on 11/26/12 at 10:00 am
Posted on 11/26/12 at 9:58 am to dagrippa
quote:
I wouldn't slit my wrists (like some of the morons on here) over any of those
Me neither. Night game vs. Clemson is not looking so bad to be compared to day games vs. Northwestern.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 10:05 am to Ghostfacedistiller
quote:Not going to happen. Loser of SEC Championship game will go here.
1. Capital One Bowl
quote:A&M has this one wrapped up. To bad Texas finished so shitty. It will Be A & M vs. OSU.
2. Cotton Bowl
quote:No. USCe will go here.
Outback Bowl
quote:Ta-da! LSU vs Clemson.
4. Chick-Fil-A Bowl
quote:MSU or Vanderbilt.
5. Gator (SEC 6)
Posted on 11/26/12 at 10:05 am to Ghostfacedistiller
I would like to sodomize Texas
Posted on 11/26/12 at 10:06 am to The Mick
ESPN has Texas a and m going to cap one bowl.Why would cap one take a and m over LSU??
Posted on 11/26/12 at 10:07 am to alajones
quote:
Not going to happen. Loser of SEC Championship game will go here.
Not if the opponent is Michigan. The Cap One Bowl will not match up Alabama and Michigan when they played a few months ago.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 10:07 am to alajones
quote:
2. Cotton Bowl
A&M has this one wrapped up. To bad Texas finished so shitty. It will Be A & M vs. OSU.
I would like to know what inside information you have that leads you to believe that A&M has this one wrapped up.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 10:08 am to PurpleAndGold86
quote:The heisman plays for A&M, its the sexier pick atm.
I would like to know what inside information you have that leads you to believe that A&M has this one wrapped up.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 10:09 am to The Mick
quote:
The heisman plays for A&M, its the sexier pick atm.
LSU fans would fill more hotels, eat at more restaurants, and provide more overall tourism dollars to the city of Dallas than A&M would. Bowl games are not about one "sexy" player.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 10:11 am to The Mick
quote:
The heisman plays for A&M, its the sexier pick atm.
I'm hoping the Capital One picks A&M for this reason instead of a disapointed SEC CG loser, espescially if UGA loses badly and we go to Cotton.
It's all speculation.
This post was edited on 11/26/12 at 10:12 am
Posted on 11/26/12 at 10:24 am to Ghostfacedistiller
Most interesting games would be Michigan, OK, or FSU regardless of bowl venue.
Okie is a year too late and VaTech...blah. Clemson is a good team I guess but I have no interest an there's no prestige for beating Clemson.
Okie is a year too late and VaTech...blah. Clemson is a good team I guess but I have no interest an there's no prestige for beating Clemson.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 10:24 am to PurpleAndGold86
quote:How do we know this? A&M travels very well also and Im sure would pack the joint and city.
LSU fans would fill more hotels, eat at more restaurants, and provide more overall tourism dollars to the city of Dallas than A&M would.
PS Im with you guys, obviously Id rather LSU but Im just offering what I feel is the national consensus atm. (outside of our P&G world).
Posted on 11/26/12 at 10:26 am to The Mick
quote:
How do we know this? A&M travels very well also and Im sure would pack the joint and city.
Not at all saying they don't travel well. They would certainly sell the tickets to the game out. I am saying they live close to the city though. They would NOT fill hotels like LSU fans would. Its like LSU going to the Sugar Bowl.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 10:29 am to biglego
quote:
Most interesting games would be Michigan, OK, or FSU regardless of bowl venue.
I agree. I'm just saying I'd prefer Clemson at night over Northwestern at 11 am.
It's unfortunate how close we were to something great, but still a lot can happen.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 10:31 am to PurpleAndGold86
quote:
I am saying they live close to the city though. They would NOT fill hotels like LSU fans would. Its like LSU going to the Sugar Bowl.
There are massive numbers of Aggies in Houston, B-CS, and all across Texas in places that are not day-of-the-game driving distance from Dallas.
Aggy would flock to Dallas, especially to play Texas
Posted on 11/26/12 at 10:34 am to PurpleAndGold86
quote:The entire city sells out when LSU goes to the sugar. The city does extremely well.
Its like LSU going to the Sugar Bowl.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 10:34 am to Ghostfacedistiller
I just hope we play Michigan, whatever bowl it takes for that to happen.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 10:35 am to PurpleAndGold86
quote:Because it's what I think will happen. Is this not a discussion board?
I would like to know what inside information you have that leads you to believe that A&M has this one wrapped up.
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