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re: Let's do some basic math regarding the basketball program, shall we?
Posted on 1/30/25 at 10:22 am to Hold That Tiger 10
Posted on 1/30/25 at 10:22 am to Hold That Tiger 10
quote:Next will be who would want to coach this program? No one is going to want the job, so therefore we should keep the coach we have.
Their excuses have absolutely no limits. They have used probably 10 different excuses for McMahon. We are nearing the end of the road though because "we should just keep him because it would be too expensive to get rid of him" is an argument pretty much admitted defeat. There is nowhere else to go from here.
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 10:31 am to Open Your Eyes
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So pure speculation
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I surveyed a handful of movers and shakers in the sport – two high-major head coaches, another high-major staffer, a recruiting insider and a behind-the-scenes power broker, all of whom were granted anonymity in exchange for their candor — to get a feel for the market.
You seem to struggle with basic reading. These are as solid of sources for this as you can get.
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that doesn’t come close to totaling $10 million
Which is why I said $5-10 million. 10 million being an elite-elite roster.
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doesn’t factor in the revenue sharing
if you think that MBB is likely to get a huge slice of that pie. It may offset some of the cost, but there will still be huge NIL deals being in college sports done outside of revenue sharing.This post was edited on 1/30/25 at 10:32 am
Posted on 1/30/25 at 10:38 am to FireawayLSU
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LSU is a football and Baseball school. You want a basketball team then give up one of these
Why?
Which one is Tennessee giving up?
CFB playoff, Top 10 basketball and baseball teams
Posted on 1/30/25 at 10:54 am to The Pirate King
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You seem to struggle with basic reading. These are as solid of sources for this as you can get.
You definitely struggle with basic everything. Anonymous sources are the literal definition of pure speculation.
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Which is why I said $5-10 million. 10 million being an elite-elite roster.
Which is why I said you are making up scary numbers. Nobody in college basketball has a $10 million dollar roster.
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if you think that MBB is likely to get a huge slice of that pie. It may offset some of the cost, but there will still be huge NIL deals being in college sports done outside of revenue sharing.
Texas tech has already announced MBB will get 17-18% of their revenue share. Show us your great basic math skills and calculate 17% of $22 million.
When are you going to stop being a bitch and address the money already being committed for your mediocre coach’s buyout?
Posted on 1/30/25 at 11:29 am to Powerman
exactly
You may buy one or two legitimate stars and hope they bring in fans and interest.
I don't know of one player on this team that deserves any NIL money unless it is Carter. The rest could be playing and not starring for any small school in La. It is a ridiculous lineup of SEC 2nd and 3rd teamers.
You may buy one or two legitimate stars and hope they bring in fans and interest.
I don't know of one player on this team that deserves any NIL money unless it is Carter. The rest could be playing and not starring for any small school in La. It is a ridiculous lineup of SEC 2nd and 3rd teamers.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 11:31 am to Open Your Eyes
Everything he says is made up
Posted on 1/30/25 at 11:33 am to Open Your Eyes
quote:You're not understanding my point. You can say that you aren't happy with the state of the program (stating the fricking obvious) while still understanding that this team is handicapped by being without its best player + losing a starter before the season even began. That's not being content with the situation, it's just being sane.
People not being happy with mediocrity like you are /= not setting expectations.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 11:35 am to iamandykeim
Reed isn’t our best player and Ward wasn’t a starter which is why he’s leaving.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 11:43 am to Madking
quote:it's at minimum our 2nd best player and at minimum a guy that was going to get 20+ minutes per game. parlay that with 6 of our first 7 games in the SEC being against a top 25 team (also 6 of the top 7 teams in the SEC right now) and 4 of those being on the road, and you're going to get a team that's at around 12 wins regardless of who the coach is. Doesn't mean you have to love the state of the program.
Reed isn’t our best player and Ward wasn’t a starter which is why he’s leaving.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 11:53 am to iamandykeim
Reed wouldn’t have equated to 12 SEC wins and there’s zero evidence to support that. He was averaging 11 and 5 vs rent a win competition. His replacement’s numbers are barely lower vs much better competition.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 11:53 am to iamandykeim
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You're not understanding my point.
I understood it perfectly well. You are going to look for any excuse to explain away the mediocre results you are seeing.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 11:54 am to The Pirate King
When has math ever stopped you from crying about Brian Kelly? Lmao
This post was edited on 1/30/25 at 11:55 am
Posted on 1/30/25 at 11:59 am to Madking
quote:Apparently Reed’s VORP is unprecedented.
Reed wouldn’t have equated to 12 SEC wins and there’s zero evidence to support that. He was averaging 11 and 5 vs rent a win competition. His replacement’s numbers are barely lower vs much better competition.
No offense to Reed, hope he makes a speedy recovery, but these dudes acting like he’s the second coming are so ridiculous that it’s actually funny.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 12:05 pm to Madking
quote:his averages are heavily skewed by not playing a lot due to injury or because the game was in hand in 5 of his 8 games. He wasn't at 100% until Pitt. In the 3 where he actually played the entire game, he averaged 15 and 8. Even if you include those first 4 games, you HAVE to remove the FSU game from his averages as he played 2 minutes before getting hurt, which brings his averages up to 12.5 and 7.5. Reed was very clearly going to be an important part of this team given how he's only big on this team that can create offense for himself.
He was averaging 11 and 5 vs rent a win competition
It's an indictment on McMahon that he can't coach around this, but he's also not been dealt a great hand this year. I'll add that I'd be happy to move on from him even though I tend to be labeled as a McMahon apologist on here
This post was edited on 1/30/25 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 1/30/25 at 12:07 pm to TexasTiger08
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My next issue: LSU has rabid fans for 2 sports right now, football and baseball.
No, the buyout is not worth it right now.. The fans in football and baseball come to the games disguised as empty seats when the team isn't winning at an elite level. It hasn't been hard to get a ticket to an LSU home football game outside of 1 or 2 big games every year. If you don't compete for championships at LSU, the fans will stay home.
The season tickets for women's basketball and gymnastics are cheap and the teams have been elite. That's why they've had that support. You couldn't give women's basketball tickets away the year before Mulkey got here. The gymnastics tickets were given away for years, and they built a following. But it probably would fall off if they stop being an elite program.
Men's basketball has a following and people would come if the product was worth watching. I watched the game last night, and though they tried hard and stayed in the game, it was not a good showing of basketball. I'm not all that motivated to go spend money to watch a subpar product right now.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 12:21 pm to The Pirate King
How chubbed up would you get if we hired O to coach the basketball team?
Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:06 pm to iamandykeim
His averages are based on the games he played in and he wasn’t injured for any of them besides the one he was hurt in. The games where his minutes dropped he played poorly, it wasn’t for any other reason.
This post was edited on 1/30/25 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:11 pm to iamandykeim
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You can say that you aren't happy with the state of the program (stating the fricking obvious) while still understanding that this team is handicapped by being without its best player + losing a starter before the season even began. That's not being content with the situation, it's just being sane.
This is the daily struggle here - basically boils down discussion and disagreement on how much better would we be with Reed and whether Reed is/was indeed our best player.
We need to get past this, there is no way to know whether he's worth one or two more wins or 3-4 more wins or whatever, impossible and whether he is/was our best player is debatable and subjective - we're all speculating, no one knows, can we agree on that?
And CMM will be here next year - many don't like to hear that and I'm not saying I'm for or against it or if it's right or wrong - I just strongly believe that to be the case - so making a case for him staying or not based on Reed's participation or not, is IMHO a waste of time as well as I believe he'll get through till next year and Reed will be back more than likely.
So, then we're left with this year and what we have on the roster and if we are getting the most we can out of that roster. I am of the belief that we are not and there are things we could do better to maximize what we have. I've given examples of some of these things that IMHO would help multiple times - they are my opinion - thus I offer them for discussion of the few of us that still have a passion for LSU hoops.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:13 pm to drizztiger
I wonder which NBA team is tanking to draft him? Going by the mcmen’s description of him he’s probably a top 3 pick.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:16 pm to Tiger Ugly
Well Cam Carter is easily our best player and Reed isn’t even close to him so there’s no debate there.
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