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re: Let us talk Les Miles for a second....
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:35 pm to Gray Tiger
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:35 pm to Gray Tiger
Never said that, LSU did make a significant offer and a raise for him. One that made him stay, he didn't stay for his same salary.
However using that as loyalty is absurd because in each situation Les got what he wanted, a raise. Saban situation was completely different in that he accepted what was perceived a greater challenge.
He didn't leave LSU for Alabama which it seems many believe happened. He left for the NFL which we all knew would eventually happen.
However using that as loyalty is absurd because in each situation Les got what he wanted, a raise. Saban situation was completely different in that he accepted what was perceived a greater challenge.
He didn't leave LSU for Alabama which it seems many believe happened. He left for the NFL which we all knew would eventually happen.
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:36 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
You can't mention Saban without people seeing it as a shot at Les
You can't mention Les without some seeing it as a shot at Saban
That's why this board is awesome, no middle ground
You can't mention Les without some seeing it as a shot at Saban
That's why this board is awesome, no middle ground
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:37 pm to tduecen
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How so? Because Kirk said he was gone? We don't know the specific dollar amount Michigan offered, you could assume but we know what he makes at LSU. Reports were 4 million and LSU came in at 3.75 but those aren't always accurate and more about saving face
the report was that Michigan offered more and he turned them down.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:39 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
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A fair number of people on here go into a tizzy or a complete meltdown any time Bama or Saban is mentioned on this board,
because people get tired of the Sabanistas bringing him up every time someone wants to discuss Les Miles. This thread is a perfect example....look at the title.
its been 10 fricking years....move on
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:39 pm to Choctaw
The report came from a TAF member and one was written by Glenn Gluibeau
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:40 pm to tduecen
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The report came from a TAF member and one was written by Glenn Gluibeau
and?
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:41 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
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A fair number of people on here go into a tizzy or a complete meltdown any time Bama or Saban is mentioned on this board, proving both their insecurity about the Bama program and proving their fear of the coach.
so you measure the greatness of a coach on how other school's wimpy fans react at the mention of his name on a message board...
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:45 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
Proving my point that Miles is still a controversial and not necessarily universally respected coach of LSU (at least among the fanbase) is this exact thread for example.
This same topic comes up every couple of months and usually results in 10-20 page threads of fans bantering back and forth about his faults as well as his foibles. If he was such a great coach, universally loved, best ever, GOAT, or whatever other superlatives you wanted to heap upon him, the thread would last a day and have a couple of yaay, hurrah posts in it from various fanboys and then it would go away.
Instead you see a lot of various opinions of the guy, both pro and con, but certainly not a broad base of support by what you could argue are the most vocal fans who post on a message board and care about the program.
This same topic comes up every couple of months and usually results in 10-20 page threads of fans bantering back and forth about his faults as well as his foibles. If he was such a great coach, universally loved, best ever, GOAT, or whatever other superlatives you wanted to heap upon him, the thread would last a day and have a couple of yaay, hurrah posts in it from various fanboys and then it would go away.
Instead you see a lot of various opinions of the guy, both pro and con, but certainly not a broad base of support by what you could argue are the most vocal fans who post on a message board and care about the program.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:46 pm to ForeLSU
quote:No, I'm measuring their immaturity as fans.
so you measure the greatness of a coach on how other school's wimpy fans react at the mention of his name on a message board...
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:47 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
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Proving my point
you haven't proven a point in years
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This same topic comes up every couple of months and usually results in 10-20 page threads of fans bantering back and forth about his faults as well as his foibles.
less than 10% of the posters in this thread have bitched about Miles. you're a loud, obnoxious minority
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but certainly not a broad base of support by what you could argue are the most vocal fans who post on a message board and care about the program.
see above
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:48 pm to Choctaw
quote:I actually agree with you. Every time we want to measure Les Miles success someone has to bring Saban up. It's one game per year for Christ's sakes, what about all of the other games?
because people get tired of the Sabanistas bringing him up every time someone wants to discuss Les Miles. This thread is a perfect example....look at the title.
its been 10 fricking years....move on
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:51 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
This one turned on first page by KJ and me asking him, why and that his reasoning wasn't sound then posters questioning my reasoning.... 
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:52 pm to Choctaw
quote:The 12 page thread in the offseason proves my point. Why does the topic keep coming up?
you haven't proven a point in years
quote:Certainly more than 10%. You could argue that the cheerleaders are equally small and obnoxious, and loud. They tend to shout down anyone who has an alternate view.
less than 10% of the posters in this thread have bitched about Miles.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 1:55 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
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Why does the topic keep coming up?
1. trolls
2. qualities inherent in many LSU fans
3. folks not liking Miles from day 1 seemingly unable to get over it
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:00 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
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Proving my point that Miles is still a controversial and not necessarily universally respected coach of LSU (at least among the fanbase) is this exact thread for example.
MY POINT is that the earth is round. That's about as earth-shattering as your point is. No one has argued that Miles isn't controversial. The thread a couple of days ago took off when some jackass from Alabama said that 100% of the people he talks to say that Miles is a douche bag. Controversial isn't a word that I'd pair with 100%. Miles supporters (count me in) are aware that some don't like him.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:14 pm to Choctaw
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This thread is a perfect example....look at the title
hmmm...funny...I don't see Sabans name in there anywhere.
The OP asked what fans liked/disliked about CLM. It was a pretty straight forward ? and then of course NS's name came up, which it invariably does. They both coached here...of course they're going to be compared.
I've never understood why people get so GD irate when Saban's name is mentioned. It's ridiculous.
CLM's record stands on its own merits....as ppl point out all the time. Why the insufferable insecurity???
This post was edited on 4/22/14 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:06 pm to RedTigerRulz
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Yea somebody earlier brought up Les's loyalty to LSU...which I do believe now is unquestioned....but he sure as hell pulled a fast one in that situation.
Yet the haters say he never was offered by Michigan because he is a terrible coach.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:10 pm to BillyBobBlitzkrieg
Saban is only a douche on days ending in y!
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:13 pm to timm6971463
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Saban is only a douche on days ending in y!
timm strikes again!!! you're more lucid today.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 3:13 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
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A fair number of people on here go into a tizzy or a complete meltdown any time Bama or Saban is mentioned on this board, proving both their insecurity about the Bama program and proving their fear of the coach.
It's telling, imo, that the only coach the "not taken with Miles" crowd seeks to use as some kinda measuring stick is Nick Saban. Which puts Miles in some damn fine company if you ask me.
It's kinda like you telling me your G/F is better than mine cause yours came in 1st in the Miss Louisiana contest and mine came in 3rd.
You really need to get over your "fear" of Bama stuff. No team of consequence in the SEC or nationally fears playing Bama. That's the kinda of continual extreme statements that raises the troll alert warning in the back of my mind.
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