re: Les Miles was a good manager.

Les Miles inherited a Cadillac and turned it into a Chevy Suburban. A top notch Suburban, but one none the less. He was a great recruiter but pitiful game day coach. The 2007 team was built upon a sizable amount of players Saban recruited but he got some of them, too. The 2011 team was all him. He built and coached that team to the NC game and totally fricked it up somehow in the most humiliatingly way possible.

With the talent that he got to come to LSU, I believe had he really known what he was doing on game day, LSU would have won at least 2 more championships while he was here.
LSU had the bad fortune of being in the same division, let alone conference, as Alabama while Alabama was the employer of Nick Saban.

LSU, with Miles, could have coasted and been just what they became: The Iowa Hawkeyes of the SEC. Challenge for the conference title every year in some way, win it a couple of times, been on the radar for the NC every so often, but always pacing behind Ohio State. Not a bad place to be. LSU fans are very spoiled, and have the ex wife syndrome with Nick Saban.

But, what is past is past. This being said, I believe that BK is a much better coach then either Miles (whom I grew to like as he looked the good ole fashioned football coach) and Coach O. Go Tigers.

This is what I think people are missing. It didn't end well, but it was good for a long time.

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It is interesting both of these posts exist in this thread. They can't exactly coexist

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he inherited an LSU team that had been recruited by the best coach ever in college football history

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The "coach won with previous coach's players" is such a cop out especially when the new coach had coach them for three years!

If you want to use that argument then Saban won with Dinardo's players.

The only coach that you can make an argument where he won with a previous coach players would be Larry Coker with Miami after Butch Davis left. :dunno: :dunno:

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So unfortunate for him, then, that he forgot how to coach when he went to Kansas, huh?

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That has frick all to do with the coach he was here.

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So, we were lucky to have him when we did, you know, before he forgot how to coach?

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I guess I'll just wait here patiently for you to explain away his decade plus of sustained success at LSU, while actual terrible coaches like 0 showed how easy it is to fail here even with all our resources. Get the feeling I'll be waiting for a while.

ETA And spare me the "you still think Les should be the LSU coach" BS. Nothing is further from the truth. His record here is what it is though. And nothing he did at Kansas will change that.

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i am. saying he only had punters and blocking TE is ludicrous

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Thank god. While we didn't see eye to eye on Les all the time, I usually value your opinion and was going to be disappointed

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O won as many national championships as Miles did. That was the point. Even a terrible coach won a national championship here.

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And it's obvious to anyone that isn't on 0's level he brought very little to the 2019 season.

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Miles was lucky to be in the right place at the right time. His tenure at Kansas proved that.

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You can't succeed as long as Les did here simply on luck. You just can't. Trying to compare success at LSU with success at Kansas is possibly one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read here.

Laughing at you guys trying to prop up Miles by comparing him to O.