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re: Les Miles: The Man in the Arena
Posted on 11/26/15 at 10:16 am to arktiger28
Posted on 11/26/15 at 10:16 am to arktiger28
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You know us Les Miles lovers ain't got the learnin' to know no history stuff.
For much of the Rant, you described it exactly.
Thank you.
No one has a problem with you being "sentimental" about Les Miles. But of course, your sentimentality has to include a bash of realistic fans who realize it's time for LSU and Miles to part ways.
So don't get pissy when your real motive for the post is pointed out.
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Posted on 11/26/15 at 10:43 am to timlan2057
In absolute honesty my intent was never to bash current negaters. I've always felt like Les got an extra critical eye of everyone his entire time here. Fans, media, and opposing fans all viewed him through a pretty critical lens. His goofiness and living in Sabans shadow as well as some bad game management contributed to this. So the quote was intended to be more all inclusive of his career more than the events of the last week. I can see why you took it wrong though. I still think you guys have an odd fixation on stamping out anything positive about the man.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 10:48 am to LSUinMA
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Because every time I think of Theodore Roosevelt and his Harvard refined brilliance, I think of Les Miles.
Yeah Miles only has economics degree from one of the best universities in the country.
God I hate our ignorant fans.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 10:53 am to timlan2057
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This does not apply to Les Miles.
It most certainly does wheb you have a lot of dumbass armchair coaches on here talking about what Miles should have done during a game. People that haven't coached 1 down of peeler football yet presume any dumbass can lead lsu to victory. The quote fits. Deal with it.
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Another stupid attempt at bashing LSU fans who want the best for their program--
You nor the board know what's best for the program. Any coach they hire is only presumed to be a better man for lsu. In pretty sure whomever we hire won't have one of the best win % in sec history and the #1 ooc win % in sec. He probably won't give lsu it's mostsuccessful 10 year stretch ever. I believe it's time for a change but let's not act like the next hire is, for sure,gonna have better results than Miles.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 10:55 am to arktiger28
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In absolute honesty my intent was never to bash current negaters.
Don't you know that any positive post about Miles or his tenure his blasting negatigers?
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I've always felt like Les got an extra critical eye of everyone his entire time her
He most certainly did and it's not debatable. You have supposed lsu fans shitting own our program's accomplishments just because they don't like Miles.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 10:58 am to timlan2057
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realistic fans who realize it's time for LSU and Miles to part ways
It's time for a change because of the board member's quote an not because lsu has been run into the ground. We have a shot to finish top 20 this year and that would put us at finishing top 10 in 2012, top 15 in 2013, and top 20 in 2015.
That's hardly cause for firing.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 11:57 am to arktiger28
nm
This post was edited on 11/26/15 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 11/26/15 at 12:11 pm to timlan2057
I think Miles probably needs to go. But I think what the OP is alluding to from this quote is not the TAF or BOS, but all the arm chair critics and fans who in their lives have not sniffed the type of competition or had to make the types of decisions that someone in Miles arena or the players on the field have. I'm not positive of course where he was going with that but the players and Miles are not above criticism, but I think the point of what Roosevelt meant is that there will always be doubters and someone who knows they can do better. The way to not doubt yourself is believe in your convictions and stand by them. However if you can't learn from the critics who are on your level and know as much as you do or more (such as maybe your OC) then you stagnate and can not reach for higher goals.
This post was edited on 11/26/15 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 11/26/15 at 3:53 pm to Rickdaddy4188
GFY
Posted on 11/26/15 at 3:58 pm to arktiger28
Excellent post. Unfortunately it will be lost on the 99% of Rantards who think American history started in 2001.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 4:07 pm to Ignignot
Teddy Roosevelt
Posted on 11/26/15 at 4:09 pm to arktiger28
Don't worry about timlan. He has this strange desire to bash anyone who says something positive about Miles. I'm surprised he hasn't accused you of working at McDonalds or something
Posted on 11/26/15 at 4:40 pm to Choctaw
frick you, Choctaw.
You and the horse you rode in on.
You and the horse you rode in on.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 4:45 pm to arktiger28
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pissed about my sentimentality. I think change may be good but I really appreciate Les Miles
Sorry ... thought this was about Saban.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 4:50 pm to Choctaw
Kemosabe ... what do you think about Jimbo/Will
Not sold here?
Not sold here?
Posted on 11/26/15 at 4:55 pm to arktiger28
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"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat."
Judging by the title I opened this thread expecting something schmaltzy and irrelevant. But this quote is actually very appropriate.
Sometimes some of the posters on here remind me of that guy or girl they have in most offices who is always pointing out how others should do their work but never seem to be doing their own work.
I think a lot of these posters would benefit from getting involved in competitive endeavors themselves - softball league, basketball league, coach kids' sports, heck join a bowling league.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 5:08 pm to FT
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I swear to God I will fight you IR
Uhoh. Internet badass response #899282177273445030224
better look out. He means bidness!
Posted on 11/26/15 at 5:23 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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I believe it's time for a change
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It's time for a change because of the board member's quote
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