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Posted on 7/2/19 at 10:17 am to
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14760 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 10:17 am to
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Tua's not a good QB



Fact.



Bet he will never play any significant time in the NFL?
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14760 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 10:19 am to
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Holy shite... You're talking about Tua right now? Or Jalen Hurts?



Jalen in a better scrambler. Tua has the stronger arm. Tua is still one of the most overrated QBs I’ve ever seen. Will never play any significant amount in the NFL.

Sorry if this upsets you or kills your narrative. It’s just the facts.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40081 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 10:21 am to
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Sorry if this upsets you or kills your narrative. It’s just the facts.


Lol what narrative? It doesn't upset me. In fact, I think it's hilarious. The type of willful ignorance it takes to conclude that Tua isn't a good QB is simply mind-blowing and downright humorous to me.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14760 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 10:22 am to
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Lol what narrative? It doesn't upset me. In fact, I think it's hilarious. The type of willful ignorance it takes to conclude that Tua isn't a good QB is simply mind-blowing and downright humorous to me.



Place your bet on his NFL career. What’s your wager?
Posted by zed44
baton rouge
Member since Dec 2006
2613 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 10:24 am to

Hope coach o brings in Lou Holtz also, you never can have too many 80 year olds on staff
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40081 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 10:36 am to
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Place your bet on his NFL career. What’s your wager?


What exactly is the bet here? I think he'll prob be a good NFL QB but I don't know what exactly you're trying to argue. I'm not going to make a bet with a random anonymous dude on the internet either, so... Sorry?

I'm really just commenting on what he's done at Bama thus far. Last season was one of the most efficient and prolific performances by a QB in college football history.
Posted by basiletiger
lafayette, la.
Member since Aug 2007
2441 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 11:04 am to
apples to oranges please make it stop.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14760 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 11:40 am to
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Last season was one of the most efficient and prolific performances by a QB in college football history.



You’re right. Trevor Lawrence did exactly that. Tua put up huge numbers agai st shitty defenses. When facing good defenses, he shite the bed and in a few cases, had to be pulled from the game because his performance was so horrendous.

I never said Tua was a terrible QB. Just that he isn’t nearly as good as the hype he got early on. He’s above average, but to say he is one of the top college QBs ever after he had to be bailed out in the SEC championship game and looked like complete garbage against Clemson is just idiotic.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40081 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 12:13 pm to
You just said “fact” in response to someone saying Tua isn’t a good QB. That to me means you don’t think he is good. If Tua isn’t good I shudder to think of how you’d classify Burrow, or any other LSU QB ever. I can’t believe I’m even having this discussion.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33850 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 12:36 pm to
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Fact.



Bet he will never play any significant time in the NFL?




I think he will, but that doesn't have any bearing on my opinion that he's good right now.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 12:50 pm to
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Place your bet on his NFL career. What’s your wager?


J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
653 posts

Seems like a good idea...place a long term bet with a guy that's been here for a little over a year.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38378 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 1:18 pm to
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You're trying far too hard. You think Saban melds different viewpoints, strategies, approaches, etc.? He does what he does.


Well, if you understood strategy, not even necessarily sports related, and leadership in general, usually a key skillset is one that can make quick decisions, usually understanding a variety of viewpoints/data points/perspectives, and understanding how to drive a group of people to a goal under a complex set of needs and circumstances.

But yeah, Saban doesn't know what he is doing.....

quote:

When they couldn't do that against Clemson, they got slapped around. Tua and their passing were a liability, regardless of their viewpoint, strategies and approaches. Nick and his viewpoint got punked. Maybe his approach was off. Or perhaps his strategy.


Great so after finishing #1, he finished #2, and has line of sight to one of those spots this year as well.

Yeah, Saban is getting punked by constantly finishing in the Top 3 of College football for an extended period of time.




Do you really want to get into an argument downplaying the skills of a Top 2 coach in college football to make our coach, who lacks a general understanding of vision and strategy, look better by comparison? Really? That's your plan?
This post was edited on 7/2/19 at 1:20 pm
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
39797 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 1:27 pm to
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Curious what this means



Bagman can’t talk when he is dad. Got to keep old guys around
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31915 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 11:53 pm to
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Bama's OL couldn't stop 3 guys on Clemson's DL who had been a force all season. As far as "water bugging" his way around the big uglies, Clemson's secondary had that mapped out. They were aware of Tua's mobility.




ALL season?


Yes. All season.


quote:

A&M passed for 430 yards against Clemson, and South Carolina passed for 510 yards.




You just made my point. They passed the ball, both of those teams, avoiding running into the teeth of the defensive line for Clemson.
This post was edited on 7/3/19 at 12:18 am
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