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re: Lee/Jefferson combo is better than the singular of either

Posted on 10/5/11 at 2:22 pm to
Posted by tirebiter
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Posted on 10/5/11 at 2:22 pm to
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Your theory would fail miserably. for one, the starting field position is worst than last years, so that is a lame argument. secondly, WHEN lsu has a chance to score, they do, as they are at the top of the nation in red zone scoring.....third, I seem to recall a certain #7 last year with a couple of early punt returns for TD, and an int return for a couple, and still that offense scored less than this one by a whole 14 ppg. Finally, Lee sure knew how to flip the switch last year when called upon to bail JJ out of close games with Tenn, Fl, and Alabama........ your points are garbage.


Put the numbers up little man, all you are doing is spewing shite. An explosive offense doesn't wait until the 20-yard line in to score, they can score from anywhere on the field. I have never heard of an explosive offense producing only 150 passing yards a game unless they are throwing up huge rushing numbers which 170 yards doesn't make the cut. How was that red zone O you are so proud of in the MSU game? How about the rushing D ratings for LSU's opponents STD, they are borderline pathetic, do you think there is a correlation with LSU's red zone plodding in to score TD's? Get back to me when JL throws for 275 and 3-TD's vs Bama and how well the most awesome red zone rushing scores were for you, cause it ain't happening against legitimate D's that can defend the pass and run. You, my boy, are a blind fricktard.

ETA - Look at Wisconsin, balanced and explosive. I do not give a damn about last year, LSU's 2011 offense is not a juggernaut. Improved, yes, explosive, frick no, and with better defenses to play as the season rolls on.
This post was edited on 10/5/11 at 2:27 pm
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 10/5/11 at 2:32 pm to
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Get back to me when JL throws for 275 and 3-TD's vs Bama


when was the last time we had a QB do this?

Certainly wasn't JJ. Listen I realize you want your **insertsomeobscurefamilymemeber** to start, but he's not going to.

The offense is putting up lots of points. Far more than last year over the same stretch of games, against tougher competition.

I know that you don't like those facts. I know you don't like the fact we have 1 int to 8 tds so far this year (absurd considering our ABYSMAL totals last year).

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Look at Wisconsin, balanced and explosive.


We are not Wisconsin. Oh and your EXPLOSIVE need for an offense takes away rest time from the defense. So although you and JJ may feel a 3 and out is preferable to clock control, it's not.

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I do not give a damn about last year, LSU's 2011 offense is not a juggernaut. Improved, yes,


wow, at least you admit this much.

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explosive, frick no,


again, why is this important? Swagger?

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d with better defenses to play as the season rolls on.


Ok, so we'll see....unless you know the future???
This post was edited on 10/5/11 at 2:34 pm
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 10/5/11 at 2:48 pm to
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when was the last time we had a QB do this? Certainly wasn't JJ. Listen I realize you want your **insertsomeobscurefamilymemeber** to start, but he's not going to.


I have not stated I want QB A or B to start, I frankly don't care and Miles will start who he starts. My point is neither is great and we have a pedestrian passing game, that is what it is at 101 in FBS football. We will not know what it would have been if JJ started, either. I do not care how LSU wins, as long as it wins, but neither am I watching games going, "this offense is awesome this year" as it is not. Improved, yes, but the D is as well. You guys keep pointing to JL as the only reason for offensive improvement in the passing game yet you have no idea what the other guys, be it JJ or Mett, would have done.
Posted by dreaux
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Member since Oct 2006
40881 posts
Posted on 10/5/11 at 2:49 pm to
We have CAM NEWTON AND DREW BREEESUS
Posted by JohnLSU
Death Valley, LA
Member since Aug 2007
7923 posts
Posted on 10/5/11 at 2:54 pm to
When have we felt the need for a running QB this season. We have RBs more than capable.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18368 posts
Posted on 10/5/11 at 2:54 pm to
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We have CAM NEWTON AND DREW BREEESUS


Unstoppable forces!
Posted by CantonTiger128
Member since Aug 2011
1291 posts
Posted on 10/5/11 at 3:08 pm to
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everyone, I took a moment from my studying (because we are all obviously just stupid college kids) and reviewed a sampling of Canton's posts. Guy is a straight up monkeydick. I would be willing to bet his D&D background and Magic card collection is as well versed as his affinity for statistics.

I could easily see him angrily scribbling in crayon his intentions to blow something up to show the world how important he is......

Pathetic really.


A perfect example of what those with differing views do, when the facts cannot support their stance. They make personal attacks. Speaks to the intelligence of the individual.
Posted by goldengorilla
Dallas
Member since Jun 2008
1013 posts
Posted on 10/5/11 at 3:12 pm to
Can anyone think of a 2 QB system that won a championship in college football besides the Tebow/Leak freak show? I tried to think of one, and I couldn't.
Posted by CantonTiger128
Member since Aug 2011
1291 posts
Posted on 10/5/11 at 3:13 pm to
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In both game ending drives in the Tennessee and Florida games, JJ could not get the job done, so les went with the guy who he knew could pass the ball. Simple observation. You can't pass JJ...
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33205 posts
Posted on 10/5/11 at 3:16 pm to
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A perfect example of what those with differing views do, when the facts cannot support their stance. They make personal attacks. Speaks to the intelligence of the individual.



intelligence? ok, then explain my position as it is laid out in this thread and bust the myth.

Seriously, do it. I want to see what position I have taken. This is going to be fun.


ETA: personal attacks? do I need to go back and quote all the asshattery that you spew? Answer the question, Pot.
This post was edited on 10/5/11 at 3:18 pm
Posted by JohnLSU
Death Valley, LA
Member since Aug 2007
7923 posts
Posted on 10/5/11 at 3:18 pm to
Running Jefferson is overrated. Against Alabama ( good Defense) last season he ran the ball 7 times for 27 yards, one run was for 11yds. They tried to run Jefferson 14 times against Arkansas gain 34 yards averaged 2 yards and lost that game. He's no Cam Newton. Cam newton can fake a run and pass with accuracy. You just didn't know what Newton was up to because he can pass and run with a body of 250 lbs coming a you. Cam Newton is a freak and comparing Jefferson to him is ridiculous. My belief is if Jefferson can gain yards running the ball than there no reason why our RBs can't do the same this season..
Posted by CantonTiger128
Member since Aug 2011
1291 posts
Posted on 10/5/11 at 3:20 pm to
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The only glaring stat difference is scoring and 48 points are benefit of FCS foe, (I know +40pts have been put up on 2 other opps).. I think we've been thru all this before.


LMAO...LSU put up 40 and 47 points this year, the 47 points against a top 20 defense....they also put up 35 points......would you like to review the scoring summary of the first 5 games in 2010? 6 games? 7 games? 8 games? You keep acting like the FCS foe is the difference. It is not like they went out and put up massive numbers....they could if they had wanted to. They put up 400 yards total offense...period......you would have an argument if LSU were scoring in the 20s against everyone else...then bam 49 points on an FCS foe....as it is...they have....btw, they are averaging 35 points a game if you take out the FCS foe.....so they are only what, 11 points more per game than last year. You of course probably think that is insignificant, since it does not support your theory.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10452 posts
Posted on 10/5/11 at 3:21 pm to
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When have we felt the need for a running QB this season. We have RBs more than capable.
3.89ypc vs #100 UK Rush D, and 25yds or so were from 4 QB rushes @ 7.25ypc, one carry being 1yd sneak ? That's really 8ypc.

LSU is averaging 1/2ypc less than last year. That's substantial.
Posted by CantonTiger128
Member since Aug 2011
1291 posts
Posted on 10/5/11 at 3:23 pm to
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And yet when trailing in the 4th quarter of the Arky game, Miles left JJ in. Who then proceeded to fumble twice, while dropping back to pass


shhhhh....the jj pumpers will be on here telling you how the line was bad, missed assignments, etc. It is NEVER JJ's fault. who does that sound like?
Posted by CantonTiger128
Member since Aug 2011
1291 posts
Posted on 10/5/11 at 3:25 pm to
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LSU is averaging 1/2ypc less than last year. That's substantial.


LSU is averaging 14 points more a game through 5 games, and more than 50 yards a game from passing....and is 95% in the red zone, compared to 74% last years...through 5 games. That is substantial.
Posted by CantonTiger128
Member since Aug 2011
1291 posts
Posted on 10/5/11 at 3:26 pm to
you are a jj pumper...quite possibly a relative or friend, but nonetheless a jj pumper. The facts don't support your stance, but it doesn't stop you. Take heart, you are not alone, you have a nice little clan of JJ pumpers who think LSU needs a change in the offense after scoring 14 more points a game this year. I am a "who is producing" pumper.
Posted by JohnLSU
Death Valley, LA
Member since Aug 2007
7923 posts
Posted on 10/5/11 at 3:29 pm to
One thought is put Jefferson at TE. Make scheme plays for the guy. Like QB lateral, TE pass,



Have you ever seen a play like that.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33205 posts
Posted on 10/5/11 at 3:30 pm to
hey, dumbass, I want you to cite my position for the jury.

please explain EXACTLY what I have been proposing.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10452 posts
Posted on 10/5/11 at 3:33 pm to

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LMAO...LSU put up 40 and 47 points this year,
Don't you even read what you copy and paste?
(I know +40pts have been put up on 2 other opps).

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11 points more per game than last year You of course probably think that is insignificant, since it does not support your theory.

Closer to 8ppg and I don't have a theory that wasn't already tested, tried and true by more brilliant minds than either one of us own.
Posted by CantonTiger128
Member since Aug 2011
1291 posts
Posted on 10/5/11 at 3:34 pm to
LOL....how bout the defensive rating for the first five teams played last year...yet LSU couldn't score close to what this offense is scoring. For the record, I don't recall anyone saying LSU has an explosive offense...nor do they need one or i dare say want one. They wear people out with this "plodding" offense and control the 4th quarter. The reason is they can sustain drives, and wear down opponents.

Get back to me when JJ puts up 275 yards and 3 TD's against Bama...k. Your final part of the thread made you look even more foolish....you are referring to wisconsin as balanced and explosive.......just like last year I assume.....might want to check out who wisconsin plays...they will not play a legit team all year. What people like you don't understand is that explosive offenses generally don't win championships...as they are geared around big plays. When they play good defenses, they don't get these big plays...i.e., oregon, oklahoma, wisconsin, etc........but a plodding, boring offense like lsu and bama have.....those are the type that perform well no matter what, and wear you down....Lsu is very balanced, and if they continue averaging 350 yards per game, they wil go undefeated. Kids like you don't get that though.
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