re: Led Miles Recruiting

Well, let's be clear and honest here... Les wasn't a "consistent top-5 recruiter" until the 2014 class.

He was a good one for sure, but he was far from "always having top-5 classes" as I've seen posted and he did get better. His last 3 were top-5 for sure. So saying he became a top-5... yep, very true.

His avg class (using 2006 as 1st): 6.54
First back-to-back top-5: 2015 & 2014

If one were to draw an imaginary line (cherry picked by me) between 2013 and 2012:
Avg pre-2013: 8.14 (high= #1, Low = #13)
Avg post-2012: 3.75 (high= #2, Low = #6)

He had a #5 class in 2007 sandwiched between #8 and #13 and the #1 class in 2009 sandwiched between #13 and #9.

Last 4 years however were (2013-2016): 6,2,5,2

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GTFO with your love affair of a coach that got fired. Accept it dick. You don't get fired for being good.

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Les Miles was fired because he plateaued and refused to adjust the offense.


Like him or not his accomplishments as the head coach at LSU under his tenure was ELITE. We can all argue over his coaching abilities but he fielded elite teams loaded with the countries best players for years and had many successful years

LSU made the change to win more than 10 games a year, which isn't even horrible

It was time to move on but Les wasn't 'horrible'

He recruited elite DB's, WR's, RB's. Other than that, he was average at best.

Look at how our DL suffered when we played Miss. State and Dak Prescott, as well as LB's.

Need I mention no elite QB's since Jamarcus & Flynn (both Saban recruits).

His top rated classes were DB, WR, RB heavy and that's a fact!

You are absolutely correct! How can any objective fans of LSU not see that......

His recruitment of OL,DL,and LB was terrible. And of course QB’s.

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His top rated classes were DB, WR, RB heavy and that's a fact!

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which classes specifically are you referring to? cuz I'd like to check your "facts".

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Turned our team from a run and gun offense to a SCREEN PASS UNIVERSITY.

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da fuq?

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GTFO with this shite. Les was an elite recruiter.

ETA: Downvotes from bitter LSU "fans" that can't say Miles, the national championship winning coach that is the best LSU has ever had, did anything right, Clowns

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This is why smart people with genuine intentions get frustrated with TD. Disingenuous shite-posters like you.

The OP NEVER stated that Miles wasnt a great recruiter and even prefaced his comments with, "Im not here to bash Miles". His complaint revolved around the balance of those top classes.

But you already knew that didnt you?

shite-poster posts shite.

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But you did any way?

However I do appreciate your astute recruiting analysis. It isn't often that a nationally recognized expert in this field visits the Rant.

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Another shite-poster here to miss the mark.

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It was time to move on but Les wasn't 'horrible'

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No. Not "horrible" in a vacuum but success in this field is relative and the many visceral, polarized reactions you see when his name is brought up hinges around this.

Some take the "wide-field" view of the Miles tenure which takes-in LSUs history and the positions of other college programs while others takes the "narrow-field" view thats relative and take into account things like NFL players from LSU, recruiting classes, program resources, AD revenue, recruiting location/grounds.

If youre the former then you think his tenure was great, maybe the best ever here. If youre the latter, while you may be appreciative of what he did do, you also lament his time here and think he left A LOT on the table and outside of a couple years, really was a perennial underachiever and never seemed to address glaring issues that would have likely closed the gap and made his tenure even more successful. Its not that these people hate the man, I dont get that sense at all, I think its more a feeling of "what could have been".