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re: Laser, optical, electronic strike zone
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:24 pm to FrisceauxTiger
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:24 pm to FrisceauxTiger
OK here's the thing. The rule book says the strike zone is this defined area. if an ump decides that a pitch six inches off the outside corner is a strike, he's effectively throwing out the rule book.
What would you say if a football referee decided to award a first down every time a time went 9 yards because that's the way his "emotions" told him to rule?
What would you say if a football referee decided to award a first down every time a time went 9 yards because that's the way his "emotions" told him to rule?
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Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:26 pm to Cold Cous Cous
quote:Well said.
Cold Cous Cous
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:27 pm to ShowMeTheMoney7
Sure. "Bad calls are part of the game - it's what makes it so great" is the retarded stance of those opposed to a uniform strike zone. So, by their logic...
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When a ball hits the foul pole and the ump doesn't call it a homerun, that makes baseball great.
When a baserunner beats out a ground ball and he is still called out, that makes baseball great.
When a ball lands in foul territory and the ump calls it fair, that makes baseball great.
When a baserunner is tagged out before getting to the base and is called safe, that makes baseball great.
When a baseball crosses the middle of the plate belt high and the ump calls it a ball, that makes baseball great.
When a baseball is one foot outside of the plate and the ump calls it a strike, that makes baseball great.
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Any questions ?
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When a ball hits the foul pole and the ump doesn't call it a homerun, that makes baseball great.
When a baserunner beats out a ground ball and he is still called out, that makes baseball great.
When a ball lands in foul territory and the ump calls it fair, that makes baseball great.
When a baserunner is tagged out before getting to the base and is called safe, that makes baseball great.
When a baseball crosses the middle of the plate belt high and the ump calls it a ball, that makes baseball great.
When a baseball is one foot outside of the plate and the ump calls it a strike, that makes baseball great.
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Any questions ?
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:28 pm to Rex
Anyone who has ever played past a level where mommy had to drop you off at practice would not be in favor of this ridiculous suggestion. And if you did, and you are still in favor, you must have rode the pine and polished the balls for the true players who played the game....
Hey I got an idea, lets create 9 robots plus an additional umpire robot and we can just watch a simulation of baseball. No call would ever be wrong and when the inning is over, the robots don't even have to leave the field....just digitally change their uniforms and play the bottom half of the inning....???
Hey I got an idea, lets create 9 robots plus an additional umpire robot and we can just watch a simulation of baseball. No call would ever be wrong and when the inning is over, the robots don't even have to leave the field....just digitally change their uniforms and play the bottom half of the inning....???
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:28 pm to Cold Cous Cous
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OK here's the thing. The rule book says the strike zone is this defined area. if an ump decides that a pitch six inches off the outside corner is a strike, he's effectively throwing out the rule book
This is the only point. Baseball is nothing if not anal about keeping and maintaining rules. Suggesting that it's better to rely on a factor that is KNOWN to make calls outside of what the rules allow simply because it's "tradition" is stupid.
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:29 pm to ShowMeTheMoney7
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Hey I got an idea, lets create 9 robots plus an additional umpire robot and we can just watch a simulation of baseball. No call would ever be wrong and when the inning is over, the robots don't even have to leave the field....just digitally change their uniforms and play the bottom half of the inning....???
have you always been a dumbass or did you have an accident that made you mentally retarded?
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:30 pm to Rex
how would this technology adjust to different batters who have differnt strike zones?
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:31 pm to ShowMeTheMoney7
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Anyone who has ever played past a level where mommy had to drop you off at practice would not be in favor of this ridiculous suggestion. And if you did, and you are still in favor, you must have rode the pine and polished the balls for the true players who played the game....
Keep pounding this stupid suggestion...it'll be true one day.
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Hey I got an idea, lets create 9 robots plus an additional umpire robot and we can just watch a simulation of baseball. No call would ever be wrong and when the inning is over, the robots don't even have to leave the field....just digitally change their uniforms and play the bottom half of the inning....???
Yeah...what the frick? Oh, is this one of those analogy thingies that really have nothing to do with the argument but sound funny on the poster's head and it gets typed out? 'Cause those are awesome...
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:31 pm to Cold Cous Cous
You could also call holding every down in football, or why don't we have a laser shine from above to get the exact spot of the ball each time.....
Fellas, an integral element of sport is JUDGEMENT, you take it away and part of the game is dimished...
And if you tards keep gradually changing these elements, then one of these days you aren't going to have the original game anymore....do us a favor and stick to checkers or go fish...i don't think even you tools can try to mess those games up...
Fellas, an integral element of sport is JUDGEMENT, you take it away and part of the game is dimished...
And if you tards keep gradually changing these elements, then one of these days you aren't going to have the original game anymore....do us a favor and stick to checkers or go fish...i don't think even you tools can try to mess those games up...
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:31 pm to ShowMeTheMoney7
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Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:33 pm to ThePoo
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how would this technology adjust to different batters who have differnt strike zones?
That's not really the point. We're assuming, for the case of argument, that bit of technological know-how has been taken care of.
The argument is, IF such a system was in place that could accurately call balls and strikes, would you be in favor of it...or would you prefer the human element where umpires routinely make bad calls?
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:33 pm to ThePoo
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how would this technology adjust to different batters who have differnt strike zones?
I have no idea... BUT
it seems to me that the machine could at least call whether the ball has actually crossed the plate. Even if an ump is necessary to call whether it's high or low I think halfway is still better than no way.
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:34 pm to ShowMeTheMoney7
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Hey I got an idea, lets create 9 robots plus an additional umpire robot and we can just watch a simulation of baseball. No call would ever be wrong and when the inning is over, the robots don't even have to leave the field....just digitally change their uniforms and play the bottom half of the inning....???
This may be the most idiotic post ever. Wow.
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:34 pm to GeauxTigerTM
I believe that would ruin baseball.
Not only that, but how would you accomplish this when each player has different heights, batting stances, etc.? Also, when a batter swings his body moves so much that there is no way that you could use sensors attached to their uniforms.
Each umpire is different. Each has a different strike zone and it is the job of the pitcher and the batter to adjust to that element of the game.
Also, as far as I am concerned I have never seen an umpire make a call that was wrong.
Not only that, but how would you accomplish this when each player has different heights, batting stances, etc.? Also, when a batter swings his body moves so much that there is no way that you could use sensors attached to their uniforms.
Each umpire is different. Each has a different strike zone and it is the job of the pitcher and the batter to adjust to that element of the game.
Also, as far as I am concerned I have never seen an umpire make a call that was wrong.
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:35 pm to ShowMeTheMoney7
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Fellas, an integral element of sport is JUDGEMENT, you take it away and part of the game is dimished...
Hilariously wrong. An integral part of sports officiating is correctly perceiving the activities in front of you and applying the rules of the game to those activities. If a machine can do it, so be it.
It seems you actually think the officials are actual participants in the game. The only time that happens is when they get in the way of a tackle or catcher trying to field a ball.
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:36 pm to ShowMeTheMoney7
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Fellas, an integral element of sport is JUDGEMENT, you take it away and part of the game is dimished...
Let's leave the judgment to the players playing the game rather than to some emotional referee who suddenly judges to favor the side he likes.
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:36 pm to ShowMeTheMoney7
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You could also call holding every down in football, or why don't we have a laser shine from above to get the exact spot of the ball each time.....
You realize this basically happens when a spot is in question...don't you? Sheesh...
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Fellas, an integral element of sport is JUDGEMENT, you take it away and part of the game is dimished...
Yeah, the part that removes the game from the players and puts it into the hands of officials. And if there's one universal truth, it's that fans pay big money to watch officials make judgement calls.
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:37 pm to ShowMeTheMoney7
quote:i'm not sure what "dimished" means.
you take it away and part of the game is dimished...
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:38 pm to PnG Exsanguination
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An integral part of sports officiating is correctly perceiving the activities in front of you and applying the rules of the game to those activities. If a machine can do it, so be it.
So if a machine can do your wife better than your sorry lil pecker, so be it ?
Posted on 6/25/09 at 4:38 pm to Tigreat
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Each umpire is different. Each has a different strike zone
Is that what the rule book says?
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