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re: Kelly’s Insubordination on firing Sloan

Posted on 10/26/25 at 9:49 pm to
Posted by hometownhero89
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Posted on 10/26/25 at 9:49 pm to
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so LSU should owe him $0, right?


Never alluded to any of that, Kelly should be happy to get 20-30%. That’s just with what we know that’s currently public.
Posted by hometownhero89
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Posted on 10/26/25 at 9:50 pm to
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this is so silly Do you think full control of staff decisions wasn’t in his contract

Sillier to think that we’d put that in there. Have you read the contract?
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 10/26/25 at 9:51 pm to
Nah bro, we’ll send this thread to the Kean Miller lawyers negotiating the buyout and hometownhero says insubordination is cause and we’re an at will state and LSU is off the hook for the $54 million.

You were very clear and explicit in your outright idiocy.
This post was edited on 10/26/25 at 9:53 pm
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 10/26/25 at 9:58 pm to
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Sillier to think that we’d put that in there. Have you read the contract?
si a guy with 10 mil a year is gonna take a job where his staff is just assigned and under the direction of others. This is the dumbest take I have ever seen. Have you ever signed an employment contract of any sort.

People here talking about us being an at will state! lol
Posted by hometownhero89
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Posted on 10/26/25 at 10:00 pm to
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Huh? BK wanted to fire other guys in addition to Sloan and Woodward didn’t want to do that


Word on the street is that he was told to just fire Sloan now and wanted to take a different course of action, hence the argument escalated.

Also to the one-liners on this post, his refusal to fire Sloan or whoever he was told to will be argued as misconduct and/or insubordination.

It depends on how this was defined in the contract but I don’t it will stray too far from standard definitions. If the infidelity rumors are true, then that can also be argued as moral turpitude or conduct detrimental to LSU.

He’s not going to get all 53 million at this point.
Posted by hometownhero89
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Posted on 10/26/25 at 10:01 pm to
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Have you ever signed an employment contract of any sort.


Quite a few. Whatever I build is subject to review 5 years after termination from my current employer. Have you ever signed a trade secret contract? They had to tip toe around a Texas hire because it’s not an at will state. They informed me that was not my case. And I’m still with them.
This post was edited on 10/26/25 at 10:02 pm
Posted by hometownhero89
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Posted on 10/26/25 at 10:04 pm to
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Kean Miller lawyers


Good folks. They’re primarily on the defensive side for oil and gas. Nice plug though.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 10/26/25 at 10:04 pm to
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Sillier to think that we’d put that in there. Have you read the contract?


Check out Section 4.B. of his contract.
Posted by Lightbringer1
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Posted on 10/26/25 at 10:05 pm to
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his refusal to fire Sloan or whoever he was told to will be argued as misconduct and/or insubordination.


You keep saying this. Argued by whom?? People on the internet who don’t know what the frick they are talking about? The Cookie Elves that live in that tree? The cast of Sesame Street?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 10/26/25 at 10:05 pm to
My guy, you told us earlier that us being an at will state has something to do with Kelly’s contract.

Just sit a few plays out. This is a little bigger than your non-compete to sell industrial generators at the next plant.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 10/26/25 at 10:07 pm to
If Woodward calls Kelly up at halftime and tells him to put MVB in the game, and Kelly tells him to kick rocks, are you under the impression it is “insubordination” that can lead to termination with cause?

This is just silly.

LSU isn’t getting out of the contract because Woodward and Kelly disagreed over a football decision.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 10/26/25 at 10:10 pm to
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Huh? BK wanted to fire other guys in addition to Sloan and Woodward didn’t want to do that


Woodward was protecting the OL coach???
Posted by Chase504jeffersonla
Member since Jul 2025
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Posted on 10/26/25 at 10:22 pm to
I think CBK biggest mistake was not recruiting Emory jones back to play left tackle .
Posted by sarussell01
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Posted on 10/26/25 at 10:25 pm to
Sports contracts supersede “at will” genius especially when the money is guaranteed. There are very few reasons within correct a football coach can be fired with cause and not receive any compensation.
Posted by hometownhero89
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Posted on 10/26/25 at 10:45 pm to
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boosiebadazz


Old man, you couldn’t be more far off,
Posted by FriscoTiger
Frisco, TX
Member since Aug 2005
4533 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 10:51 pm to
Pretty sure Kelly has wanted to fire David after his first year here.
Posted by jbraua
Oklahoma City, OK
Member since Oct 2007
7704 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:08 pm to
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That’s a violation of his contract, therefore tort. Moron.


This comment is very bad

/s/ jbraua Esq.
Posted by biglego
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:10 pm to
Good lord you are stupid. And you’re doubling down. So you’re twice as stupid as I initially thought
Posted by dkreller
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Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:12 pm to
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hometownhero89

Wow
Posted by hometownhero89
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Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:28 pm to
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Check out Section 4.B. of his contract.


Section 4.A

LSU can terminate Kelly without any payment if he:
1. Engages in willful misconduct that materially harms LSU’s reputation or program.
2. Refuses to perform duties or fails to follow reasonable directives from the Athletic Director or President.


I stopped reading there.

Would you say it’s not a reasonable directive to fire Joe Sloan? If it’s not reasonable to fire Sloan, then what reason do you have to retain him?
This post was edited on 10/26/25 at 11:31 pm
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