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Kelly needs to take notes from Jay!

Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:02 am
Posted by LaTiger045
franklinton
Member since Oct 2023
289 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:02 am
Jay is the Portal King. BK might need to pick his brain on this .
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78190 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:03 am to
imagine slumming it with a 2nd overall pick like Daniels when you could have a first overall pick like Skenes.

Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60645 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:04 am to
Not going to happen. Kelly has planted his flag, he will build this roster thru recruiting hs students.

Now, he may save his bacon by finding three or four studs but the last two years suggests our portal activity will be disappointing
Posted by BlackPot
Member since Oct 2016
2551 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:12 am to
quote:

Jay is the Portal King. BK might need to pick his brain on this .


Because baseball and football are the same exact thing. Got it.
Posted by LaTiger045
franklinton
Member since Oct 2023
289 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:12 am to
He lucked up on that one . And that's not exactly what i was referring to. I was referring to positions of need. I'm saying outside of Daniels he needs to do a better job in the portal.
Posted by saintslsupels
Member since Jul 2014
2492 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:15 am to
“I’m not buying players” Meanwhile A&M and Ole Miss are in the playoff hunt because they don’t have an antiquated dumb view of college football.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
49084 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:16 am to
Jay Johnson leaves more testosterone on everything he looks at than Brian Kelly has in his whole body.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
5922 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:21 am to
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“I’m not buying players” Meanwhile A&M and Ole Miss are in the playoff hunt because they don’t have an antiquated dumb view of college football.



How'd that strategy go for Florida State? It's nice when it works but devastating when it doesn't.
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
4443 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:23 am to
Jay has a greater NIL advantage over his peers than Kelly does. Just a fact..
Posted by bourbon78
Member since Feb 2024
269 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:24 am to
Kelly has the unique strategy of not buying players but also spending very little time personally recruiting.

Nice way to make $10m
Posted by saintslsupels
Member since Jul 2014
2492 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:30 am to
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How'd that strategy go for Florida State? It's nice when it works but devastating when it doesn't.
Is anybody saying to stop recruiting high school players and only focus on the transfer portal? Nobody is saying that. The best schools still recruit well from high school but also get enough transfer players to field a competitive team that can win 10+ regular season games. Is that a hard concept to understand? Imagine our team if we get a better center, 2-3 better def lineman, and 2-3 defensive backs. This year and last year could’ve been way different.

Also can you think of a team that needed to use the transfer portal more the last 2 years than us? The portal is great if you inherit a bad situation with only 39 scholarship players. It was flat out a bad move by BK to rely on high school recruits when your best class hasn’t made it to campus yet. We’re fricking lsu, we’re in The top 5 in both coaching salary and NIL payout, no excuse for having your worst team in year 3. The fsu comparison is dumb.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
5922 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:48 am to
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Is anybody saying to stop recruiting high school players and only focus on the transfer portal?


The post I responded to used Ole Miss as an example of what we should strive for and they took 26 transfers this year. They took more transfers than HS seniors in their class.

And still lost to LSU.


quote:

The best schools still recruit well from high school but also get enough transfer players to field a competitive team that can win 10+ regular season games. Is that a hard concept to understand? Imagine our team if we get a better center, 2-3 better def lineman, and 2-3 defensive backs. This year and last year could’ve been way different.


Theoretically, sure. That's assuming you hit on all of those portal takes though which was the entire point I was making. The portal is not as much a sure thing as people make it out to be. You just as easily get those portal guys and they not pan out.


quote:

It was flat out a bad move by BK to rely on high school recruits when your best class hasn’t made it to campus yet.


Our best player last year was a transfer. I'd say he relied on him pretty heavily.

quote:

The fsu comparison is dumb.


OP that I responded to used Ole Miss as the metric for what we should be trying to do in the portal. I used an example of another team that went portal heavy and it blew up in their face.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78190 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 9:01 am to
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The post I responded to used Ole Miss as an example of what we should strive for and they took 26 transfers this year. They took more transfers than HS seniors in their class.


this was also a “all the money in the table” year for them.

they cannot afford to spend like this every season and if they don’t make a real playoff run they won’t be spending like this again.

Posted by iamandykeim
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
3659 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 9:02 am to
Jayden Daniels, Bradyn Swinson, Logan Diggs, Aaron Anderson, Paris Shand, Zy Alexander, Mekhi Wingo, Greg Brooks, Joe Foucha, West Weeks, Miles Frazier, Kyren Lacy, Jarrick Bernard, CJ Daniels, Gio Paez, Jay'viar Suggs, Zavion Thomas

What are you talking about?
Posted by saintslsupels
Member since Jul 2014
2492 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 9:03 am to
Nobody is using Ole Miss as a metric, you’re making shite up to help your argument like some dumbass pseudo intellectual. All I’m saying is it’s really obvious that in this past class we should have gotten more transfers, similar to how Ole Miss did. Did you see how Ole Miss just flipped a 5 star wr from bama? They’re also about to flip Devin Harper, I’m sure you know who that is. A huge reason those guys are flipping is because ole Miss is now viewed as a program that can compete for titles. The reason ole miss is competing for titles is because they attacked the portal.

Is that hard to understand that BK should’ve gotten more transfers this year? And is it that hard to understand that a resource rich school like lsu can have top ranked high school classes and also effectively use the transfer portal? You can do both, it doesn’t have to be one or the other.

I swear we have the most binary thinking fan base in the country. It’s not a hard concept to understand that you can recruit high schoolers and also use the transfer portal, but some just can’t grasp that idea.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34063 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 9:06 am to
Comparing football to baseball is silly. LSU is one of the handful of schools that actually gives a damn about baseball and is willing to commit significant resources to it. That means LSU is one of the few wealthy "buyers" in the marketplace. There are MANY more wealthy buyers in the football marketplace.

Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
5922 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 9:06 am to

Nobody is using Ole Miss as a metric, you’re making shite up to help your argument like some dumbass pseudo intellectual.



quote:

Meanwhile A&M and Ole Miss are in the playoff hunt because they don’t have an antiquated dumb view of college football.







ummm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78190 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 9:10 am to
quote:

Nobody is using Ole Miss as a metric, you’re making shite up to help your argument like some dumbass pseudo intellectual. All I’m saying is it’s really obvious that in this past class we should have gotten more transfers, similar to how Ole Miss did.


Have someone read that out loud to you.
This post was edited on 11/14/24 at 9:22 am
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
5922 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 9:10 am to
quote:

All I’m saying is it’s really obvious that in this past class we should have gotten more transfers, similar to how Ole Miss did. Did you see how Ole Miss just flipped a 5 star wr from bama? They’re also about to flip Devin Harper, I’m sure you know who that is. A huge reason those guys are flipping is because ole Miss is now viewed as a program that can compete for titles. The reason ole miss is competing for titles is because they attacked the portal.


You're right, Ole Miss is a title contender and that's why they flipped Cunningham. LSU doesn't have any elite recruits committed because they aren't viewed that way.

Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
5922 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 9:12 am to
quote:

Have someone read that out load to you.


He contradicted himself while calling others pseudo intellectual dumbasses. All of this started because we dared to point out that t portal can be boom or bust and mentioned FSU.
This post was edited on 11/14/24 at 9:14 am
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