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re: Justin Vincent clears up what happened with Travis Etienne's recruitment

Posted on 1/8/19 at 6:42 pm to
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 6:42 pm to
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I agree with all of this which begs the question why do some feel the need to keep bashing Miles over this? He prioritized a higher ranked prospect, got fired, the higher ranked prospect signed with FSU, would Akers be here if Miles wasn’t fired? Who knows, doesn’t matter anyway. TE went with the hot team that just won the NC so the whole idea that he LSU blew it by not offering him sooner is either false or makes him look petty. I wouldn’t “blame” O for losing either because of the circumstances, overall he did a good job keeping that class together. I would say he was at fault for not having a better RB this season, but he corrected it by getting elite prospects this class, so no use crying over who Miles May have missed


I was going to post something similar to this. It seems silly to try and assign blame here, we fired our coach 1/3 of the way through the season, which will be a recruiting disruption for anyone.

Dylan Moses dad said on here multiple times that if Miles is here, so is Dylan. Who knows if Miles could have gotten him back, but who do you blame that on?

We tend to forget that these kids are the ones making decisions, and young kids might also try and justify their decisions when the truth is they just like somewhere else better.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50203 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 6:42 pm to
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But yes, visits can be scheduled "without the HCs approval". Which was your question




You come in to the thread talking about other people's biases. Then, when its shown Miles was recruiting etienne it was totally just his recruiting coordinator (Orgeron) the whole time who was probably doing it without Miles' knowledge.

You're a joke.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 6:43 pm to
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This is what guys like him do, they take all responsibility away from the head coach so it’s impossible for him to be blamed for anything.


You poor, illiterate kid.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293324 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 6:45 pm to
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Then, when its shown Miles was recruiting etienne it was totally just his recruiting coordinator (Orgeron) the whole time who was probably doing it without Miles' knowledge.


I never said that, you can't read. I was showing you its possible Miles didn't know, because you asked

I said it's possible, not happened

There's not a soul in this room who knows who did what, and when.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293324 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 6:46 pm to
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We tend to forget that these kids are the ones making decisions


Right on, and you never know what the tell the coaches.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
25198 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 6:47 pm to
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It seems silly to try and assign blame here

this is the board of hindsight.
of course we all shouldve known Etienne was gonna be a stud right? how could people that get paid to coach football not evaluate every single player correctly? its not like a whole bunch of schools passed over studs like Baker Mayfield and Patrick Mahomes, or RBs like Laveon Bell. recruiting in hindsight is one of the most pointless things one can possibly do
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 6:55 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50203 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 6:48 pm to
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The retardation grows exponentially


You're trying to paint a picture of Les Miles being clueless about a composite 4* running back and top 10 player in the state of Louisiana. That LSU's recruiting coordinator was the only reason he was on LSU's board.

That's pretty incredible, even for you.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50203 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 6:49 pm to
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I never said that, you can't read. I was showing you its possible Miles didn't know, because you asked

I said it's possible, not happened


Sure. It's totally possible Miles didn't know about one of Louisiana's top 10 players when he was the coach of LSU.

Totally plausible.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293324 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 6:50 pm to
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You're trying to paint a picture of Les Miles being clueless about a composite 4*


Wrong wrong wrong

You're just pissy and paranoid

I'm not painting any picture.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293324 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 6:50 pm to
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Sure. It's totally possible Miles didn't know about one of Louisiana's top 10 players when he was the coach of LSU.


Not one person has said that

Are you seriously retarded?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50203 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 6:53 pm to
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Not one person has said that

Are you seriously retarded?


You literally just confirmed you said it's possible.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293324 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 6:56 pm to
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You literally just confirmed you said it's possible.


You're illiterate.

I said it's possible he was scheduled for a visit without specific knowledge because that's what you were discussing.

If you could read this would be easier.
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
13314 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 6:57 pm to
This is a pointless thread. What does it matter? Is Etienne the only RB we regret not taking over the years?

This is how it went and I don't care what anyone else says. We had CEH committed. He was our choice of undersized backs that year. That was the reason for Etienne being backburnered. Les thought he was too small for the SEC and CEH was already in. Didn't want 2 backs he considered undersized for the SEC. Akers was our guy and he spurned us. It happens.

The Etienne excuse or hurt feelings is understandable but why did he decide t lo go to a school that offered after we did, only after losing Richardson, after only 1 visit? It's a bullshite excuse.

IIRC, there were plenty of people that were advocates of Etienne but there were also plenty of detractors. Someone on her knows how to find the threads.

Again, Les thought he was purely a speed back and undersized and if you watched last night he did nothing to change that perception. He scored a TD but he was in no way a factor in why Clemson won. Also, before this year, he would've been on the bench getting minimal carries, if not redshirting. Maybe he could've helped this year but he wouldn't have helped us beat Bama. What's the big deal?
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22560 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 6:57 pm to
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You're trying to paint a picture of Les Miles being clueless about a composite 4* running back and top 10 player in the state of Louisiana. That LSU's recruiting coordinator was the only reason he was on LSU's board. That's pretty incredible, even for you.


I just read all the posts in this exchange and I didn’t get out of his comments what you did.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293324 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 6:59 pm to
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just read all the posts in this exchange and I didn’t get out of his comments what you did.


Its mind boggling

Hes looking to be offended
Posted by doya2
Charenton
Member since Jan 2005
8414 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 6:59 pm to
Here's the real reason:
Kid hated Jaluke.
Fact.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
25198 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 7:00 pm to
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Again, Les thought he was purely a speed back and undersized and if you watched last night he did nothing to change that perception. He scored a TD but he was in no way a factor in why Clemson won. Also, before this year, he would've been on the bench getting minimal carries, if not redshirting. Maybe he could've helped this year but he wouldn't have helped us beat Bama. What's the big deal?


the big deal is they can find something else to blame our coaches for. even tho the head coach in charge of that decision is no longer here
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22560 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 7:00 pm to
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The Etienne excuse or hurt feelings is understandable but why did he decide t lo go to a school that offered after we did, only after losing Richardson, after only 1 visit? It's a bullshite excuse.


This is what I was getting at too.

quote:

Again, Les thought he was purely a speed back and undersized and if you watched last night he did nothing to change that perception. He scored a TD but he was in no way a factor in why Clemson won.


Didn’t he score their first 3 TDS?

Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50203 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 7:00 pm to
What I said:

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Wait, you think Etienne camping and having visits scheduled is Miles NOT recruiting him?


What he said:

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Those are duties of the RC. The HC decides to offer or not. 


He wouldn't respond to that at all if he wasnt trying to make a point about Miles and his recruitment of Etienne.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50203 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 7:04 pm to
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I said it's possible he was scheduled for a visit without specific knowledge because that's what you were discussing.


No. What I was doing was making a point that Etienne was on Miles' radar while that other poster was trying to male the claim that Miles literally never recruited him.

Your little underhanded jab at Miles was caught and pointed out. Its particularly hilarious this was done in a thread where you were crowing about other poster's having a bias.

You really are a joke.
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