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re: Just watched the 2014 LSU/Gumps on ESPN and

Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:33 pm to
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:33 pm to
Think about the early 2000s when it was fun, that’s what I do when I get angry reliving the end of the miles era lol.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:33 pm to
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I was always amazed how he could get wrs without a quarterback lol
me too, mainly bc Les never learned how to incorporate the forward pass.
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:35 pm to
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Pretty sure that wasn't the plan


Obviously it wasn’t the plan, but it became doable when Miles decided to squib it instead of kicking into the end zone which we had being doing well all game with it!

When you overthink and don’t have the capacity to do that, shite like that happens
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:36 pm to
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It’s amazing what people can believe they see in a game compared to what actually happened.


Please put the crack pipe down and step away from the ledge!! No one is going to hurt you!
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38229 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:38 pm to
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Think about the early 2000s when it was fun, that’s what I do when I get angry reliving the end of the miles era lol.



I was 8 in 2003 and in 7th grade in 2007

I didn’t really get it back then.
Posted by Tiger in Gatorland
Moonshine Holler
Member since Sep 2006
9077 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:43 pm to
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could recruit everything but a damn QB.


Agree 100%,. But how about that crucial drop by Trey Quinn? I thought for sure he was going to be a Josh Reed slot type wr.
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
25711 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:43 pm to
From 2000-2007 were the goat years. Then it went down a level from them on besides the 2011 year. I never want to experience the early and late 90s again lol.
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:44 pm to
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How we were able to keep it competitive with Jennings at quarterback is nothing short of a miracle
Well they had Blake Sims, so..........

And Amari Cooper dropping more passes than Trey Quinn, but catching the one that counted. Amari fuggin Cooper dropping multiple passes.

Interestingly, this was Fournette's best game against Bama. But even Williams, Terrance Magee, and Hilliard, prior to his injury, had success running the ball.

This was the last mediocre Bama team tbh.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:46 pm to
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was always amazed how he could get wrs without a quarterback lol


I’m going to start by saying the qb situation under miles was completely his fault, but if you look at the qb’s he had and the amount of winning he did it is pretty amazing. Shows how well he could recruit all other positions but the most important one.

Late in his time at LSU he started recruiting for rankings and not need like he did early at LSU. He loaded up on skill guys and lacked depth in the lines. This is great for recruiting rankings but not great for the team. It’s almost like when he started losing more he needed something to hang his hat in and that was it.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38229 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:47 pm to
I understood the importance of the run in 2011. I was a junior in high school. The one Alabama fan in my first class the next day after 1/9 almost got his arse whipped by like 6 people.

Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38229 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:48 pm to
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And Amari Cooper dropping more passes than Trey Quinn, but catching the one that counted. Amari fuggin Cooper dropping multiple passes.


Tre White had his arse on lockdown. They put Jalen Collins on him just a few times and Amari took advantage.
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 11:49 pm
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12174 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:50 pm to
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He loaded up on skill guys and lacked depth in the lines
That had a lot to do with Chavis, actually...at least on the D.

I mean, guys like Pocic, Trae Turner, La'el, etc...all pretty good/very good on the OL. But the DL went WAY downhill fast.

I feel like that's corrected, but the OL is now the issue. It's not horrible, but we really need to load up next cycle (need to this cycle, but I ain't seeing it)
Posted by Vaquero
Member since Dec 2012
134 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:51 pm to
Yea great points. I guess I’ve associated their success over the last 8 years with teams of late and forgotten how beatable they’ve been at times during the span
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:53 pm to
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Harris had come in for Jennings and HE was the reason the TO had to be called. I mean, as it was, it was a 39 yarder with Colby Delahoussaye, which was certainly not a given. Lose 5 more yards to delay of game and it's really a stretch.


Haven’t played much competitive football have ya???

First off Harris should have been given the play to RUN IN WITH, that is kind of how good coaches save time!!!

And second he called the TO with 11 seconds left in the play clock, the least Mikes should have done considering time was the ENEMY of Bama was to call TO with a second on the play clock! But that isn’t even it! They were centering the ball for the kick how difficult a play to call with that goal in mind?????? Jesus they could have probably still called a running play with 11secs on the clock and executed it without a penalty! But the point is, Harris the new player in the game should have been running in with a play!! No excuse for it acceptable!!!


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Then kicking it out of bounds...shite, the squib was the right call. That's on the damn kicker..


Yes I understand the “squib” principle in a tight game at the end, but there wasn’t a need for that call! But we had done well in the kicking game and they weren’t hurting us in anyway no reason to go away with what is working, kinda like “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”

On top of the fact that a minute is a little too much time to squib it, because most normal squibs go to around the 25-30 yd line!!! We weren’t accomplishing anything by doing that especially since no time went off the clock, but that wasn’t by design obviously
This post was edited on 8/17/19 at 12:07 am
Posted by El Magnifico
La casa de tu mamá
Member since Jan 2014
7017 posts
Posted on 8/17/19 at 12:00 am to
Ole Les fricked us out of 2012 as well
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 8/17/19 at 12:03 am to
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But even Williams, Terrance Magee, and Hilliard, prior to his injury, had success running the ball.


Because it was easy to game plan against Miles when we had fournette, for the defense it was, find number 7 and tackle him every play
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
25711 posts
Posted on 8/17/19 at 12:05 am to
I thought guice would run better against Bama then fournette.
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12174 posts
Posted on 8/17/19 at 12:06 am to
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Haven’t played much competitive football have ya???

First off Harris should have been given the play to RUN IN WITH

The first sentence, frick off.

The second, agree with you on that. I just think we went through a run of QBs (save for Mett) starting with 2008 that were just untalented or flat out unintelligent. I mean, we couldn't get one that was both? Hatch was a Harvard guy so I'll assume smart, but I cannot believe he was ever the starting QB at a program like LSU, IMMEDIATELY following a damn NC year. Lee was a head case, JJ didn't have it upstairs but was tough. Jennings had less talent and more upstairs than Harris, Harris less upstairs with more talent.

The fact we landed Burrow is a miracle. I think Brennan may be a decent QB, MAYBE. Definitely has the arm. But I have little faith in our QB recruiting to date including the 2020 guys we have committed. Since 2007, the only good QBs we've had have been transfers.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38229 posts
Posted on 8/17/19 at 12:18 am to
Max Johnson looks alright. I have no faith in Finley or Parrish.
Posted by Dubaitiger
Abu Dhabi, UAE
Member since Nov 2005
4936 posts
Posted on 8/17/19 at 12:38 am to
What about Tennessee 2005 at Tiger Stadium, which was Les Miles' 2nd game at LSU. I said that night, oh shite we are in trouble with this guy. Let me refresh your memory,

Tennessee looks like shite on humid night
They flew in the same day, so tired and not normal game day
Erik Ainge rattled, many turnovers
LSU up 21-0 at halftime
Should have been 24-0. Ran out of time with J. Russell scrambling, down at the 5 yard with no time outs left. Bad coaching. Spike it or throw away
Rick Clausen comes in and sparks Tenn.
Les Miles goes into run out the clock mode in the 3rd quarter
Tenn 1-8 3rd downs first half with 3 turnovers
We lose 30-27

Les Miles showed a way to conservative game up big and gave a beat up Tenn team life and they took advantage of it

That tall white cap should have been knocked off his head and some sense knocked into him. The crowd was crazy early on and the conservative play killed the energy of the crowd, but I knew deep inside where this doufus would lose us some games on being conservative with a big lead and that he did not gave a killer instinct.


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