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re: Jordy’s take on the qb battle this morning
Posted on 8/9/22 at 3:36 pm to talmaniandevil_25
Posted on 8/9/22 at 3:36 pm to talmaniandevil_25
quote:It's less of a bullshite take than blaming the quarterback for a loss when the offensive line couldn't punch it in from two yards out when it's first in goal against Missouri's third string defense.
Kind of a B. S. take. We shouldn’t have been throwing a one read fade to our 6 or 7th leading receiver
We had the ability to kick the field goal and keep overtime going. But Nuss did what he had been doing the whole game. Forcing throws down the field and praying the receiver made a play. His one touchdown pass in that game was a sketchy throw off his back foot that Bech made a great play on.
I'm not against us Nuss as the starter. Frankly I hope he is. That would mean he's better than Brennan and Daniels, whom I consider good quarterbacks. My point of posting all this is that I don't think the criticism Brennan gets is fair.
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Posted on 8/9/22 at 4:00 pm to SCREWDAT
TBD. The point is it’s not like he only throws it 15 times a game and automatically runs after one read
Posted on 8/9/22 at 4:05 pm to LSBoosie
You are just being dense about this.
I think you know what Brooks lacked.
I think you know what Brooks lacked.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 4:08 pm to boweswi05
Dude completed an average of 15 passes a game last year @ a 65.4% completion rate...
Posted on 8/9/22 at 4:13 pm to tigercraig
And Brennan was trash against even worse teams and doesn't have any athletic ability.
quote:
He’s trash
He was trash in pac 12…. You think he’s somehow not going to be trash in the sec where they actually play some defense. Lol
This board is full of morons
Posted on 8/9/22 at 4:19 pm to TheTruthPolice
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And Brennan was trash against even worse teams
How was Brennan trash?
Posted on 8/9/22 at 4:20 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
quote:
It's less of a bull shite take than blaming the quarterback for a loss when the offensive line couldn't punch it in from two yards out when it's first in goal against Missouri's third string defense.
Myles isn’t a good quarterback. He waited his turn and when he got his shot he had the opportunity to win 2 games for us against garage teams. I don’t care about the o line or the defense, he should’ve been better in the 4th and that’s on him, he couldn’t get it done
Posted on 8/9/22 at 4:21 pm to kengel2
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How was Brennan trash?
Against Mizzou, LSU led by a touchdown and then scored a total of 3 points over its last 4 possessions.
Against State, LSU trailed by 3 and then the last possessions went
1. Interception
2. Punt
3. TD on short field setup by turnover
4. FG on 1 yard drive set up by turnover
5. 3 and out
6. Interception
In 10 must-score possessions, Brennan led us to a total of 2 FGs and 1 TD, with 10 of those points coming from a short field set up by the defense.
If LSU only gets touchdowns on 10% of its score-or-lose possessions in close games this year, we are going to have a terrible season.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 4:35 pm to studentsect
Though I'm not sure you can credit all of this to Myles specifically, I thank you for bringing a reasonable response with specific examples to back up your argument.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 4:39 pm to NicotineFree2022
Damn bet Brennan wishes he would have bailed now.
Wonder if he just isn't picking up the new system.
Wonder if he just isn't picking up the new system.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 4:39 pm to studentsect
Exactly any QB with a pulse can put up stats against a bad defense in a spread throwing 50 times a game. The only game against a middle of the pack SEC defense he had 45 qbr. Terrible and he misses so many reads and takes so many sacks no other QB would.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 4:42 pm to studentsect
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Against Mizzou, LSU led by a touchdown and then scored a total of 3 points over its last 4 possessions. Against State, LSU trailed by 3 and then the last possessions went 1. Interception 2. Punt 3. TD on short field setup by turnover 4. FG on 1 yard drive set up by turnover 5. 3 and out 6. Interception In 10 must-score possessions, Brennan led us to a total of 2 FGs and 1 TD, with 10 of those points coming from a short field set up by the defense. If LSU only gets touchdowns on 10% of its score-or-lose possessions in close games this year, we are going to have a terrible season.
This is a very valid point. MB guys love to tout his total yardage his and total td’s, but that gives absolutely context into how the games actually went. He was bad on 3rd down and awful in the 4th quarters of both of his losses
Posted on 8/9/22 at 4:44 pm to NicotineFree2022
*absolutely zero context
Posted on 8/9/22 at 6:34 pm to studentsect
If the defense had a pulse we would have won those games easily.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 6:50 pm to NicotineFree2022
Daniel's stats were very avg. in a weak PAC 12. I just don't see that translating to a starter in the SEC. He needs a completion rate of 60+ and minimum ints. to win in the SEC.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 7:09 pm to kengel2
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If the defense had a pulse we would have won those games easily
If we have above average qb play in the 4th quarter then we would’ve won both of those games
Posted on 8/9/22 at 7:22 pm to kengel2
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If the defense had a pulse we would have won those games easily.
1. The LSU defense arguably outperformed Brennan in the fourth quarters of those games.
2. That defense was an abortion and everyone who was associated with it in anyway has been fired. If someone were on here arguing that duplicating the LSU defense from the 2020 State and Mizzou games would set LSU up for a great 2022 season, I would, um, forcefully disagree. But Brennan being less bad at quarterbacking than the worst LSU defense in history was at defensing is not really much of an argument in his favor 2 years later. LSU had 3 mediocre at best QBs that year and both of the other 2 were able to put together game winning drives in the fourth quarter against better teams than the ones Brennan lost to.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 7:33 pm to NicotineFree2022
This is true, but you can also point to games where Daniels was bad all game, not just 3rd downs and 4th quarters. It goes both ways. And with Nuss, nobody has actually seen enough of him to know anything.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 7:52 pm to studentsect
Gave up 44 to Mike leach in his first game bringing a very very different offense to miss state. The only other team state put up more than 30 points on was oddly enough Missouri. Was only sacked twice in this game.
Speaking of Mizzou, we gave up 45 to them, they were pretty bad, but I'd say the two runs that lost yardage and the two shitty passing calls screwed us more than Brennan. Also, sacked 7 times against Mizzou. Running game was shite.
I just don't see why everyone points at Brennan, it's easy to defend when the o-line blows and there is no running game. Brennan still slung it all over the field. If he had maintained that pace the whole year, he'd have almost eclipsed Jayden Daniels career stats.
I don't really care who starts at QB. Just hate to see some blame Brennan for 2020 for the two losses. Our leading rusher had like 450 yards on the season. Combine the top 2 and they barely eclipse 800 yards for the entire season.
Defense also gave up an avg of 323 yds passing and 170yds of rushing a game. 2019 gave up 222yds passing and 120 yds rushing.
Speaking of Mizzou, we gave up 45 to them, they were pretty bad, but I'd say the two runs that lost yardage and the two shitty passing calls screwed us more than Brennan. Also, sacked 7 times against Mizzou. Running game was shite.
I just don't see why everyone points at Brennan, it's easy to defend when the o-line blows and there is no running game. Brennan still slung it all over the field. If he had maintained that pace the whole year, he'd have almost eclipsed Jayden Daniels career stats.
I don't really care who starts at QB. Just hate to see some blame Brennan for 2020 for the two losses. Our leading rusher had like 450 yards on the season. Combine the top 2 and they barely eclipse 800 yards for the entire season.
Defense also gave up an avg of 323 yds passing and 170yds of rushing a game. 2019 gave up 222yds passing and 120 yds rushing.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 8:01 pm to kengel2
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kengel02
Brennan played awful this game, he was awful on 3rd down and awful in the 4th quarter. He didn’t step up in the pocket and make throws and he missed open guys. He also had 2 pass attempts to win the game from the 2 yard line and wasn’t able to compete either of them. We all know what good qb plays looks like and he didn’t remotely resemble it in that game
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